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Strange circumstances surround Albuquerque murders

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posted on May, 1 2010 @ 08:38 AM
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Strange circumstances surround Albuquerque murders


www.kob.com

Some of the Department's biggest cases of 2010 include a Wiccan who's accused of stabbing a man she'd nicknamed "sacrifice." They also investigated a burned body left, in all places, in a park. Police also responded to the scene of a 91 year old woman who had been sexually assaulted and then died later from more than 27 injuries she suffered in the attack. APD says they also saw two seniors who died in a strange suicide pact. One of those deaths is still technically ruled a murder.

(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on May, 1 2010 @ 08:38 AM
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In another quote from the story

"For as much as we've seen and as many crimes as we've investigated, some of them we went, wow, we've never seen this before," Paiz explained. She says a surprising trend is that three homicides have been double homicides. "It doesn't happen that often. And to be four months into the year and have three separate double homicides is a surprising number," she explained.


It is strange and its like folks have just gone crazy!!!
Maybe it's from all the RFD chip implants and Fluoride in the water?

www.kob.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 08:52 AM
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....or perhaps this is merely a precursor to justifying possibly following in Arizona's footsteps?

I would imagine that all of the border states realize that if Arizona stands alone, they will merely just push the problem to the surrounding states.

Arizona is certainly getting some backlash, and I would think that other states looking to pass similar legislation would want to minimize backlash as much as possible. Perhaps they are learning from Arizona....?

Lastly, always keep in mind that if you want Americans to support a cause, any cause, the best method is to reinforce that our fellow citizens are being murdered, paint a dire situation, throw in some senior citizens and sexual assault, and the American people will want the blood of whomever did the deed.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by lpowell0627
Lastly, always keep in mind that if you want Americans to support a cause, any cause, the best method is to reinforce that our fellow citizens are being murdered, paint a dire situation, throw in some senior citizens and sexual assault, and the American people will want the blood of whomever did the deed.



So what is wrong with punishing the individuals that commit crimes? I guess you would take the individuals responsible for these crimes and shower them with gifts. Maybe even take them out to a dinner and a movie?



[edit on 1-5-2010 by prionace glauca]



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:00 AM
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Well, it would have to be assumed it's illegals doing the killing right? The article didn't really mention anything about them. I think it's best not to bring up that angle because 90% of ATS is going to come in here frothing at the mouth. The legality of the offenders is not discussed. It's best not assume it's for any nefarious purpose (or that they were all illegal).

Personally, I'm feeling a lot of anger from people these days. Being a preggo woman it's a bit overbearing. I actually have to stay away from a lot of things now. This anger seems to be seeping into everyone. It's just sad. I think that might be what's driving all this craziness.



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posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by prionace glauca

So what is wrong with punishing the individuals that commit crimes? I guess you would take the individuals responsible for these crimes and shower them with gifts. Maybe even take them out to a dinner and a movie?



[edit on 1-5-2010 by prionace glauca]


I knew I should have put a disclaimer that said: There is no judgement in what I write...

My point was not that the reaction was wrong, my point was not that Americans wanting justice was wrong, my point is merely:

Headlines about suffering Americans are generally followed by controversial legislation to protect us.

[edit on 1-5-2010 by lpowell0627]

[edit on 1-5-2010 by lpowell0627]



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:05 AM
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No, they certianly don't say it's illegals at all. Nor am I. But how many people will simply read the headline:

Strange Murders in New Mexico

...and assume it's referring to illegals given the current situation and discussions regarding Arizona?

That was my only point.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:06 AM
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Now now... no ones blaming the illegals. well not for all of em...
its a story about these murders just being downright bazaar!

FYI yesterday Gov. Bill Richardson took a step to help protect New Mexicans from Arizona's new immigration law.

"You're going to cause enormous tension in the Hispanic community in America," Richardson said on Larry King Live earlier this week.


We're hunting cartel members not refugees from that damn drug war



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by lpowell0627
My point was not that the reaction was wrong, my point was not that Americans wanting justice was wrong, my point is merely:

Headlines about suffering Americans are generally followed by controversial legislation to protect us.

[edit on 1-5-2010 by lpowell0627]


Wait so Arizona passing the exact same FEDERAL LAW with an additional LAW signed today to exclude Racial Profiling is considered controversial.




[edit on 1-5-2010 by prionace glauca]



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by lpowell0627
reply to post by antonia
 


No, they certianly don't say it's illegals at all. Nor am I. But how many people will simply read the headline:

Strange Murders in New Mexico

...and assume it's referring to illegals given the current situation and discussions regarding Arizona?

That was my only point.


You are right. I do feel this whole debate has caused people to lose their ability to think rationally on both sides of the coin.. I can't count the number of times I've been called a traitor, sympathizer or illegal lover in the last week. Even by people who should know me better than that.

It's lonely in the middle these days friend.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:08 AM
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You're not really going to try to say that the legislation in Arizona is not controversial are you?

No matter what side of the fence you sit, you certainly HAVE to acknowledge that it's controversial.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by prionace glauca

Wait so Arizona passing the exact same FEDERAL LAW with an additional LAW signed today to exclude Racial Profiling is considered controversial.




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Of course it is, the very fact people on ATS are constantly arguing about it proves that point. I thought it was academic that the law was causing controversy.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by lpowell0627
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You're not really going to try to say that the legislation in Arizona is not controversial are you?

No matter what side of the fence you sit, you certainly HAVE to acknowledge that it's controversial.


So wait is having borders considered controversial? How about having LAWS in the first place that should have been followed? I think that is controversial also..



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by prionace glauca

So wait is having borders considered controversial? How about having LAWS in the first place that should have been followed? I think that is controversial also..


His commentary was not a judgement of the law. It was simply him acknowledging the law itself is controversial and when a law like this is passed you see a lot of loaded headlines afterward. Please, take a deep breath. Calm down and think about it.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by antonia
His commentary was not a judgement of the law. It was simply him acknowledging the law itself is controversial and when a law like this is passed you see a lot of loaded headlines afterward. Please, take a deep breath. Calm down and think about it.


Lol, Last I checked I wasn't pregnant and sure am not mad. Just pointing out the controversy you and the ATS board has made this out to be is overblown. This was a FEDERAL law that out dates most of the people even posting on these boards.

Now rapid breaths then shallow breaths, repeat.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by prionace glauca

Lol, Last I checked I wasn't pregnant and sure am not mad. Just pointing out the controversy you and the ATS board has made this out to be is overblown. This was a FEDERAL law that out dates most of the people even posting on these boards.


If it was already on the books the Arizona wouldn't have to pass anything. I'm just telling you the guy wasn't making judgement. Trying to argue the merits of the law is pointless considering he never questioned the MERITS of the law. As for it not being controversial, well let's see...There will be protests today against it, there are at least 4 threads a day on ATS whining for or against it, the news has a new story on this issue every time i look at it. That would indicate there is controversy. I don't think it's an issue of perspective at this point.

Even the fact people are arguing about it in this thread proves it. This thread was about weird murders in A; Albuquerque last time i looked up at the headline. You can't seem to find a thread without someone arguing about illegals these days in this part of the forum.

[edit on 1-5-2010 by antonia]



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by antonia
If it was already on the books the Arizona wouldn't have to pass anything. I'm just telling you the guy wasn't making judgement. Trying to argue the merits of the law is pointless considering he never questioned the MERITS of the law. As for it not being controversial, well let's see...There will be protests today against it, there are at least 4 threads a day on ATS whining for or against it, the news has a new story on this issue every time i look at it. That would indicate there is controversy. I don't think it's an issue of perspective at this point.

[edit on 1-5-2010 by antonia]


Of course the "Da Newz" will have stories, they need ratings. Communities don't need ratings. Arizona passed the same exact FEDERAL law because the FEDS were not doing anything to enforce it. Now ever since Arizona passed the same LAW, other states are looking to do it also so they can start enforcing it...which the FED clearly is failing to do.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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Don't Hijack My Thread, keep on topic, Please


Sorry for the one line post ATS



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:31 AM
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I tried, I think you are going to have to understand this is just going to happen regardless of what is said.

The article didn't say a lot about the nature of most of the murders though. I got the "wiccan" (i'm sorry, i have to make a distinction here, most news agencies wouldn't know a real wiccian if they came over and smacked on the head) story and that was kinda weird. But other than that I think it was a lot of hype and no show. I think a lot of these murders has to do with the seething anger in our population right now.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 09:42 AM
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The so called "wiccan" story was kind of strange
see this lady picks up this guy at the bar in a casino, they get to drinking... They go for a dive in the foot hills... she says she's got to pee and goes behind some bushes... she claimed it was then he grabber her... she wrestled away then later brandished what she called a wiccan ritual knife... stabbed him like 20 times... told the cops she and this guy were out their to celebrate the Vernal Equinox but she had the date all wrong for that... so no one believes she's wicca, but because that's her defence she's known as the "Wiccan murderess"



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