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If there must be a New One World Religion, what should it really be like?
But I digress. Certain beliefs are built upon the desire to bring everyone on the planet into the flock, so my view just isn't possible without a paradigm change in humanity as a whole.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by GrandKitaro777
Those all do sound like very reasonable and worthwhile things.
What else would you put in the Book of Grand Kitaro if you would be a Hero of the shift to the New Age?
Would you keep it that simple and easy to understand? Or would you write a few more things into it?
I appreciate you sharing, thanks for posting.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Dock9
Thanks for sharing that Dock9, I appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts on what would be ideal for them.
In that regard, there probably are no rights or wrongs.
So you see harmony through uniformity and trustable ultimate authority determining that as the way to go, based on a collective and shared concept of right and wrong on the simplest, base level?
Thanks for sharing.
Religion is pretty much just Doctrine, God said this, and Jesus said that, and Buddha said this and Mohamed said that, and so on and so forth.
Which in all reality is little different than Grandma said this, and Father said that, and Teacher said this, and Wife or Husband said that, or Tom, Dick and Harry said this or that.
So why couldn’t that Paradigm Shift then be about in The Land of The Wandering Scribe, according to the Book of the Wandering Scribe…
Why the Paradigm Shift shouldn’t be based upon people who truly share real beliefs in common gravitating towards and being grouped with one another in truly respected and respectful place makes no real sense.
Ultimately these religious beliefs, which are really just doctrines, based on one or a few people’s perspectives, and views on life and the universe, and how we should interact and what we should devote ourselves, manifests themselves into codes and laws.
So rather than create societies where people are in essence criminalized by doing and being what comes natural to them, why not create societies and lands where people dwell within respected borders, based on total voluntary belief in that’s the way to live and be that they most enjoy and is right for them.
Couldn’t we all agree to just let each other be
Originally posted by polarwarrior
reply to post by GrandKitaro777
I agree.
If people come to see the universe as infinent (which doesnt require a tele or micro scope, more correctly those tools cannot prove infinity only hint at the size) Then we will shortly after or simultaneously realize infinity is unity. Manyness is a finite concept, there is no such thing as seperate only the illusion of it. This would mean if people are going to "worship" something they will all worshipping the one infinite creation regardless of race, planet, glaxy or universe they come from. It truely is a universal belief.
"All is one" is almost like an instant cure for the world problems. People will see others as themself. People will see the folly of benefiting the self at the cost to others. Sharing of all things including knowledge will be the only way because after all there is only one of us here, experiencing many different facets of the same being. Our individuality seperation is a temporary illusion to provide the miniscule start of the increadible timeless ride of re-merging with the all that is. Our first step of this mergence is to unite with the other humans on this planet, a difficult one, but the reward will have been worth it. Remember "me" and "we" is the same thing.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Originally posted by silent thunder
There already is a universal religion that has been practiced since the dawn of man and will always be practiced in countless forms. It is found both inside and outside every form of all major religions, and it is not at all sinister or related to the NWO, etc. It goes under thousands of names but its beating heart is the same in all times and places.
Any chance you might share with us say just a handful or less of the most importing guiding points there related to it, so people could see if there are some simple principles they could agree with?
We might have to merge a few different ideas together to make everyone happy.
What would be the most important things to add?
Thanks for posting.
Meaning as a position I'm advocating omni-gnosticism and -theism. Which, admittedly, is a fairly subtle and nuanced orientation, but one that strikes me as rather open-minded and capable of adapting to a changing reality.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Dock9
So if I understand you correctly, you feel that drastic measures might need to be and ought to be taken, up to and including surgery or other forms of physical, mental modification in order to render a human free of defects?
That while that might seem harsh to some, it might be preferable and quicker, than the dysfunctional and defective and deficient, eliminating one another through Darwinian measures in ways that often end up claiming the lives of the peaceful and decent caught in the crossfire?
That’s certainly an interesting approach if ultimately that’s what it would require to make the new system/religion/laws work.
Thanks for sharing that, anything else you feel should be added to that?
Concerning the "Book" analogy: I do agree that this is the right path to take. My Book should consist of those spiritual truths that I hold sacred and divine, and Skeptic Overlord's Book should be written off of the same premise. These Books though, should not be based on what we've been told or taught alone. They should be based on what we've experienced, learned and gained through common life tasks.
And we should not use these books to encourage others' down our path. Only leave them as an open book for anyone willing to look. Proselytizing is one of the worst religious convention that I know of.
Not to get all "historical" up in here, but it's been, in my studies and college courses, the opposite direction. Religious mentality tends to hold up the laws currently governing a society. The Law Code of Hammurabi get's written into the Epic of Creation. Or the common Egyptian Laws get chiseled into the Pyramid texts. Jewish laws and morals are transferred into the Tanach.
Of course, one look at the state of man in our current world will tell you that even those who believe in the same God cannot make ends meet. Somehow Evangelical =/= Catholicism =/= Judaism =/= Islam. How will we ever get an Evangelical to sit down with a La Veyian Satanist over afternoon tea?
I felt like it was worth quoting this part, to reiterate my view, and how I think we both agree upon it, but just have two different aspirations towards it's accessibility.