Hi 9/11 truthers. I think it is about time to face the facts that there were NO PLANES used in the "false flag" attack on America. It is quite
obvious that a plane did not hit the Pentagon and also obvious that there was no plane in the field in Shanksville PA.
So why is it so hard to believe that there were NO PLANES in NY.
Oh, that's right, because you saw them on TV Get over yourself already, the criminals who planned this attack had all their bases covered,
including the manipulation of what we saw on TV that day.
Jennifer Oberstein was an eyewitness who was there on 9/11 coming out of the subway and looking up at the towers when an explosion happened, never
hearing or seeing a plane.
PS: also note that on some of the "fake" videos that show the "plane" hitting the tower, it comes straight in horizontally, and in other videos
the plane seems to "dive bomb" into the building almost vertically.
Agreed, While I dont agree with the official story, I do know there was something fishy about it, If you do not know I think some of the 9-11 theories
are bunk, and some have merrits, but this bogous no planer garbage is getting annoying.
Yes, let's also face the fact that the moon is definitely made of cheese... What's that, oh you saw the moon landing on TV, give me a break,
everyone knows that was fake
We all know NASA couldn't have really landed on the moon because they would have punched right through the moons soft Brie cheese surface...
I'm still on the fence as to how much involvement the government had in 911 but one thing we all KNOW for certain is that planes did hit both towers.
The Pentagon is still open to debate and while I'm pretty sure that got hit by a plane as well the footage they released is not exactly
How anyone could claim there were no planes is beyond me considering the thousands upon thousands who saw the planes hit while in New York and the
millions watching in horror at home.
Its ideas like the no plane theory that turned me off about the 911 conspiracy theories... its become like a religious cult this whole 911 thing,
people going around with their particular 911 myth (whether that be the Official Story or just any one of the theories) and peddling it as ABSOLUTE
Then there's the rest of us who are sane, who just want another investigation to be absolutely sure what went down that day...
Of course we can all agree that there isn't a substantial amount of evidence pointing toward the idea that a plane hit the Pentagon (especially
considering the dimensions of the impact hole in the Pentagon). And in regard to the plane that came down in Pennsylvania, the evidence all points
towards it being shot down (aircraft parts scattered within an 8 mile diameter and multiple witnesses saying that they saw an F-16 fighter jet in the
area and heard a missile impact), but when it comes down to facts, almost every amateur videographer in Manhattan had their video camera pointed up at
the towers on that fateful day after the first tower was struck, and these numerous home videos definitely show that a plane at least hit the south
tower. There are also at least two home videos that I've seen showing a plane hitting the north tower.
This has to be a theory to discredit the entire truther movement. It's as wacky as the birthers who make conservatives look like fools. Anyone
pushing this unsubstantiated nonsense vicariously discredits more prescient questions about the official story. Is that your goal?
Originally posted by skunknuts
This has to be a theory to discredit the entire truther movement.
That's exactly what it is. These "theories" are concocted and actually created to purposely make the truth movement look bad. Fortunately,
the truth movement isn't falling for it. See my thread below for more information on the no-plane disinformation:
This theory does not discredit the entire truther movement. We are all looking to get to the bottom of this crime that we know was carried out by the
Bush administration and others. A real investigation would show that there were NO PLANES used in the attacks. Please use your common sense.
You want to debate the NO PLANES theory at the pentagon...I am all ears and will be glad to back you and really dig to find out whats going on. To
say there were no planes in NYC that day is ASSinine. The government may have a lot of dirty tricks up their sleeves and definitly had a role to play
in it all, but there is NO WAY they were able to manipulate or fake over 50 DIFFERENT media feeds and NUMEROUS private home video recordings in the
time it took to get on air.
Also if there were no planes, why did this guy turn his camera away from the building to film the ONCOMING AIRCRAFT????????????????? Gee I don't
know, maybe because he saw a big ass plane headed towards the buildings and thought...hmmm, I should film this. If there was NO PLANE, he would have
NO REASON to film it....RIGHT?
Whether you know it or not, you are peddling disinfo. Some day you may wake up to that fact. And, yes, it does the rest of us, who do want to know
what happened, no good at all: it gives the media a stick with which to beat the entire movement.
Originally posted by warisover
Who was that guy that videotaped that? Where is the rest of the tape? Notice the lack of emotion after the explosion. hmmmmmmmm
Don't know who it is...that really doesn't matter...your theory is NO PLANES...this guy turned to get A PLANE into his camera view...that means he
SAW A PLANE and was able to record it. Hence the video...
As for lack of emotion. Have you ever heard of SHOCK? MANY MANY MANY people see things that literally make their mind shut down and they do not
react, do not make a sound, and simply stand there in SHOCK. Having been to combat twice and working in law enforcement I have seein it
firsthand...not one sound out of a person who just saw something that would make someone else scream and freak out.
Bottom line is you believe either in the hologram theory..which is IMPOSSIBLE yet...at this level. Or you believe the government had time to
digitally enter a plane onto EVERY media outlet in the world and EVERY private home video recording....I truly hope you take a deep breath soon and
see how silly that notion is. Again, the pentagon is a WHOLE different animal and I would be on your side if we were disscusiing that, but we
Also, explain why the firefighters looked up when they heard A PLANE fly low overhead right before plane number one hit?????? On video, ON THEIR OWN,
they look up and oddly enough their heads follow the path of THE PLANE until impact....why? Oh yeah...because there was a plane flying low and they
wanted to watch it!!!
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