This is officially the most annoying thread I have ever read on ATS. I'm not sure which is more annoying...the OP's spacing of his posts and never seeming to get to the point, or the bickering on the thread. I wasted waaaay too much time trying to find his posts through page after page of other stuff. I realize now that I am just adding to that, but d***...

Then the guy came back and had to respond to everyone and didn't post the next part...it's completely addicting, but I feel a complete waste of my time.

Pardon me please, ATS, for my venting.

Originally posted by glitchinthematrix
I wasted waaaay too much time trying to find his posts through page after page of other stuff.

In case you were unaware of the function- Theres a button that says "Thread" at the bottom of each posters post (just below the signature) which allows you to cut through all the extra BS and just read what the OP (or a particular member) has posted within the thread.

Originally posted by Johnmike
Can you guys just shut up and let him finish?

Geez, how childish. Jumping to conclusions like little animals.

You should be ashamed to be a part of site which CLAIMS to "deny ignorance"

how is basing an opinion on fact and logic being childish? if you catch your dad putting gifts under the tree and see him eating the cake you left out for santa clause, chances are there is no santa clause or that at the very least your not getting your gifts from him. no matter how desperately you want to believe it to be true wont make it so.

What i find childish is the ignorance and gullibility of the man children in here who still live in fantasy land. I was not attacking anybody but simply pointing out an obvious fact. If the OP was serious about getting the word out they would have done so in the first hit, not sitting back watching people like you and me debate about it.

THE ONLY THING THIS POST HAS DONE IS STIR UP EMOTION!!!

Think with your head not with your heart
act with your heart only when your head says its safe to do so.

this, like a number of other threads that pop up here are designed to suck in the gullible. i have no problems with people revealing "inside information" but im not a fool to chase a dangling carrot, unless of course the idea of chasing a carrot i know i will never eat amuses me.. which at this time in my life it does not.

So good luck to you and your kind alike if its not this guy it will be another.



[edit on 31-3-2010 by TiM3LoRd]

Originally posted by paratus
This is all about FTLCOM (faster than light communication) and shadow use of the rover, via its hidden ports, for the "sped up" ability of the FTLCOM/Spirit and the purpose of gathering intel on Earth. To see into tomorrow. Our satellites do it now, but having a "waypoint" to bounce our signal off Mars is much more effective.

FTLCOM is in use with one of our satelites that was (affected) by accident at first and now it is a toll that has been put on roids by this uplink to Spirit, Endeavor was fried...

but... who's accessing the rover???

There's tiny little aliens accessing the rover... Can't you see? Well, exactly, they so small we miss them. That's why this was only found now, thats why they only download thumbnail versions!
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My opinion on this matter is that it seems like he is plugging a novel yet to be released. I don't think badly of the author, for he probably doesn't realize how perturbed this makes us ATSers, I mean, look at this thread.

Some have mentioned he should have put this in the creative writting section. I fully agree. I think the best way to go about something like this would be; to first, post in the ceative writting section, where we could critisize your writting rather than your ideas, and second, once you have expended your writtings, post another thread with a brief and a conclusion. That way you have both a literary discussion and a conspiracy discussion. Everone wins.

I am waiting for the conclusion, though I think I'll just read off of his blog until it's finished. This bickering is silly.

Enjo!

New member here and wanted to comment on this 'story'. If true it is extremely interesting and further evidence that the public is being kept in the dark. The OP should be congratulated for having the courage to post.

If it is false it is a good yarn nothing more. Time will tell. Personally, sadly and I mean no disrespect to the OP, I smell FTL shi*e

I may be incorrect, but haven't ATS staff members in the past anonymously but credibly verified whistle blowers' and posters' credentials? AstroEngineer, earlier in this thread a Moderator said that you had an urgent U2U. If you're unfamiliar with how to use ATS U2Us, look at the top of the page where it says "U2Us" in red. Click on it, and read the message. Perhaps the ATS staff were reaching out to you? As I said, I may be incorrect, but I BELIEVE I recall that in the past they have met with posters and then subsequently vouched for their credentials without compromising their anonymity or personal security. You might consider taking this step if it is at all possible, as it will no doubt greatly satiate the pseudo-skeptics.

Which brings me to my second point. I sincerely intend no offense with what I'm about to say, but I feel that some posters in this thread may need to be reminded what the scientific process and skepticism are really constituted by. You are free to have personal beliefs and opinions so long as you describe them as such, including the personal beliefs and opinions that this OP is misleading you. However, if you want to call yourself a skeptic, you must remember that skepticism requires refraining from asserting a fact without irrefutable proof, including the ostensible fact that something is true, untrue, real, or a hoax.

You can say that in your opinion the available evidence does not constitute proof of something, but without proof that a lie or hoax is being perpetrated, you cannot conclude, with intellectual honesty and integrity, that a hoax or lie is being perpetrated. To do so is not skeptical, and it is not scientific. It is just the opposite extreme to blind belief. In lieu of any proof that we are being misled, the most a skeptic can say in this instance is (and this is the basis of all skepticism and scientific thought,) "I don't know yet." In lieu of any absolute proof that this story is true, we also cannot say "This is true." We can only, again, say, "I don't know yet."

Again, I sincerely intend no disrespect, offense, or insult toward anyone reading the above. I just perceive that perhaps there is no harm in entertaining a possibility without embracing it, so long as there is no proof either way yet. It seems that there are vested emotions and frustrations here that occlude that line of reasoning, and instead make it more attractive to adhere to outright belief or disbelief. That is unfortunate in my opinion.

This thread has been closed due to the inability/unwillingness of the original poster to provide the information promised. Once/if the original poster can provide the information to staff, this thread will be reopened for discussion.

Thread closed.