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reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 07:46 AM by monetaryprotest
Some of my friends who have their silver at the Perth Mint have told me that the Andrew Maguire story has them worried about whether there's any real metal there or whether it's paper silver.

Quite honestly I don't know what to tell them. Personally I like to hold it myself in physical form. A few commentators out there say that when the default comes and Comex goes bust, all promises to deliver gold and silver will be broken and trust will be impossible to find.

That's quite a scary prospect. Other people think that the precious metals defaults will be what trigger the dollar collapse and hyperinflation. That would be a very difficult environment to survive in if you don't have a good amount of physical gold and silver handy.

In other countries like Zimbabwe or Argentina, when the hyperinflation sets in, there's a process called dollarization of the economy which sets in, where US dollars replace the local currency which people lose faith in. With the US dollar itself, there's no such option. Instead you'd have a gold-and-silverization, with silver being something like a de-facto currency for day-to-day purchases like food and gold for big rare purchases lke land.

The thing is that a huge fraction of transactions today are done over the internet. That's hard to do with gold and silver because they're physical instead of the purely notional Federal Reserve Notes which are just accounting units. I know a few folks who are working on a system to bring physical gold and silver online so that you can spend your silver and gold coins over the internet. It's a step beyond the Goldmoney and e-gold ideas because those systems have their gold in a vault in London and you have to trust them that the gold exists. You can't get the gold or spend gold you already have. The new system also is decentralized which I think will be a big thing in the future when the need to have wealth in a robust form is upon us.

Andrew Maguire might be pushing these things to a head. The prices of silver and gold have been marching merrily upwards since his announcement, but from what he says, the price smackdowns will continue until enough people start asking for delivery. Thing is, you have to have a huge amount of gold before you can take delivery from most of the ETFs and so on. Certainly more than I have or am ever likely to have.



reply posted on 13-4-2010 @ 09:06 PM by burntheships
The ripples are turning into waves.

Motley Fool shouts out:
Everybody out of the Gold Pool!

Astonishing Revelations


At the same hearing, GATA chairman Bill Murphy presented allegations of gold and silver price-suppression by bullion banks such as JPMorgan Chase (NYSE: JPM) and HSBC (NYSE: HBC). Revelations from London metals trader (turned whistleblower) Andrew Maguire heaped additional corroboration onto evidence that GATA has been building for more than a decade. As a result, I urged investors to give careful consideration to their choice of bullion investment vehicles, and pointed out that the custodians of popular proxies like the SPDR Gold Trust (NYSE: GLD) and the iShares Silver Trust (NYSE: SLV) are the very same bullion banks alleged by GATA to maintain massive short positions on the COMEX.

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