reply to post by Kokatsi
Excellent post, one thing I would point out is in response to this statement.
The Iroquis principles of tribal confederacy were even more that way than Rousseau. Keep in mind that in most American Indian nations, the
majority could never enforce their will upon the individual. As far as I know, the hardest punishment was ostracism from the tribe. No police went to
your tent to enforce tribal decisions.
Ostracism from the tribe was essentially a death sentence, an extremely harsh death sentence. Yes, the tribal warriors did act as the police, go to
your tent, and enforce the tribal decision. Not only were you not allowed to live in the village, you could not hunt in the tribal hunting grounds,
if seen, you would be hunted down and killed. Guess what, the next tribe over wasn't going to let you hunt in their territory either, chances are
that you are a murderer, rapist, or thief, and they won't want you around either. Your only hope of survival was to go to some territory so harsh
that survival was do difficult, no tribe controlled the area, where you chance of survival were very slim. You weren't tried by a jury of your
peers, you weren't presumed to be innocent.
Don't get me wrong, I greatly admire Native American culture, but I think making it out to be far greater than it actually was would be a disservice
as well. One of my favorite cultural traits that came from the Natives is the concept that a chief is only a chief as long as others are willing to
I fully agree with you, corporatocracy is the biggest problem we face in the U.S.. Corporations have gotten so powerful once again, that they have
more control over our government than the public, and that is completely against the constitution. Our democratic republic has been usurped by
corporations, and that is what we need to change.
The bigger problem is that corporations control the media, and through the media they are successful at fooling enough of the people enough of the
time (brainwashing) to gain special privileges for the corporations. Through campaign financing, contracts, out and out bribery, and numerous other
means corporations have managed to take control of large areas of our governments, federal, state, county, ect., enabling them to control our laws,
dictate what our children will be taught in school, control labor rights through local control of building ordinances, zoning, and other factors.
The privately owned monetary system takes a 40% chunk out of our economy, primarily from simply moving around numbers in computers. That is the
biggest scam of them all. Private banks, by controlling lending are able to determine who can buy what housing were, and have tremendous ability to
manipulate property values, which is extremely profitable for these private organizations that control our money supply.
This is a thread I wrote that addresses how banks have created these suburban sprawls that are designed to control the population, and strip wealth
from the working class.
I really liked your closing.
However, the freedom the think tanks of the corporatocracy want us to consider is more freedom for their collective greed.
Is that much better than other kinds of collective greed?