Now you are FORCED to buy health insurance, what will you eliminate to afford it?, page 4
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reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 11:14 AM by lpowell0627
Originally posted by mblahnikluver
Originally posted by SantaClaus
Hospitals are REQUIRED to treat you whether you are insured or not.


Really says who? Tell that to Cape Canaveral Hospital who TURNED me away because I had no insurance. I was having a huge allergic reaction to a dog where my face was swollen and I was having trouble breathing. Yeah they really helped me. As soon as they took my blood pressure and temperature they asked for my insurance and I told them I didnt have any and they said they couldnt see me UNLESS I paid a fee of 300 dollars UP FRONT.


If true, you could be rich on the settlement you would get for a lawsuit. Of course, you are obviously still alive so perhaps it wasn't considered life-threatening and didn't warrant an emergency room visit.

Federal law gives you the right to emergency care, regardless of your ability to pay. Here are the details on how you should be handled at the hospital.

Fortunately, a federal law passed in 1986 to prohibit a practice commonly known as "patient dumping" gives you the right to emergency care regardless of your ability to pay. The federal law applies to hospitals that participate in Medicare -- and that includes most hospitals in the United States.

In a nutshell, the federal patient-dumping law entitles you to three things: screening, emergency care and appropriate transfers. A hospital must provide "stabilizing care" for a patient with an emergency medical condition. The hospital must screen for the emergency and provide the care without inquiring about your ability to pay.


Link:
articles.moneycentral.msn.com...

It would be helpful if people actually knew the laws of this country before trying to discuss how terrible they are.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 11:39 AM by consigliere
reply to post by troubleshooter


With all due respect 'Shooter, America turned nothing but its back on its citizens and a dollar. "They" mandated car insurance some years ago and it only succeded in creating the corporate monsters we have today.I agree,, in what used to be, the richest nation in the world,,,,everyone should have coverage!However wouldnt it be more prudent taht everone can get treatment vs everyone carry insurance,,,isnt insurance to get treatment?Its a ruse, its sickening, but afterall America's a corporation, not a country.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 11:48 AM by Helmkat
reply to post by Cabaret Voltaire



I will begin by cutting out the wars based on lies.

It won't be easy though, as an American I've come to think that Wars are like Chips, you can't have just one.

Once I have curbed my taste for blood, mayhem and chips, then I would say that Health care will be more then affordable.



reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 11:57 AM by thesillygirl
reply to post by iamoverrated



I heard that if you make under a certain amount, you don't have to pay for the insurance at all. If that's true (I don't know because I don't know where to find the actual document that was voted on so that I can see w/o political filters what's actually in there), then that would likely mean you're not going to have a problem.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 11:59 AM by daddio
reply to post by Cabaret Voltaire



www.abovetopsecret.com...


When will people understand that THEY have the power to stop this BS? Please take the time to read the li9nks or browse over them and understand it is WE that are the problem, not "them". If we would just pay attention to who we are and what we are, we wouldn't BE in this position.

Take back what is rightfully yours, your identity and your life. Man, how hard is that to wrap your head around? "Consent of the governed", what the hell does that mean anyway?


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 12:00 PM by daddio
reply to post by gwydionblack



If you are going to file taxes, file the correct paperwork, 1041, you are a trust, you have a trust fund you know nothing about, do some research and file the proper documents, simple really.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 12:07 PM by Silverado292
reply to post by Cabaret Voltaire



I'm destroyed from the military and have to survive on $254.00 a month, the person I'm caring for gets a little more for SSI. We're already cut back to the bone. He's not going to pay and neither am I, at this point I hope they come knocking to collect, it'll be there last day on the job I #ing promise that. I'm also not paying taxes anymore either, there's no point in typing anymore since it'll just be snip snip snip.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 12:07 PM by mkross1983
Originally posted by Aggie Man
Originally posted by mkross1983
Originally posted by Aggie Man
Originally posted by mkross1983
So, just so I understand. You are ok with the government going against the majority of Americans who did not want this to pass but they passed it anyway. So you are ok with America being a dictatorship now?


I think "majority" is a bad term...depends on what your source is.

Dictatorship? Oh please....

Nonetheless, sometimes we must forego what is popular in order to do what is right.


Define majority for me then.

Do you deny that a government going against the will of it's people is a dictatorship?

The right thing to do is honor the rights and freedoms of the American people and the constitution.


The poll I'm looking at right now:

What is your reaction to the newly passed health care reform bill?

For it 43% 79889
Against it 41% 76945
Not sure 17% 31040


My rights and freedoms as an American were honored. And no parts of the constitution were dishonored. If you don't like it, then I suggest that you vote those people out of office.


Yeah, you got that from MSNBC right? I'm sure the polling there isn't slanted or anything. I am still on ATS right? Not somewhere else where people believe everything they hear and see on tv (and their internet equivalents).

The bottom line to this argument is that it's not constitutional. Anyone who says they support America should be against this bill. I guarantee you the people voting that they are for it do not know everything that is in the bill.

Just like the people who said they were ok with war, they didn't realize everything it entailed. They were like, oh big bad scary guy, government says they wanna kill me, yes let's go to war I don't have any kids to give to the cause but somebody else does.

It's against the Constitution and that is all anyone really needs to know. If you pass it anyway then you might as well take a dump on it and America.

Myself, and I know a lot of other people too, are NOT ok with that.

EDIT: For spelling.

[edit on 22-3-2010 by mkross1983]
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