Multi-State Lawsuit Over Healthcare As Soon As Obama Signs!!!!!, page 1
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reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 12:30 AM by jam321
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I heard something about the Federal government not having a constitutional right to take over rights reserved for the states.


This has been an issue for quite some time. And frankly, I am really surprised that states haven't taken on the FED over similar issues in the past.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 12:42 AM by jam321
reply to post by xstealth



Your probably right about the lawsuits. But if the states can get the first court to rule the bill unconstitutional, doesn't that put the brakes on the whole deal until the next appeal court chimes in.

I'll be impressed when I start seeing succession; nothing speaks louder then that.


What state do you think would be the first to declare?


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 12:44 AM by Quantum Logic
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I don't think you'll have to wait too long for that. If the SC stalls on this, many states will not allow the money to be taken from their citizens while a ruling is just prolonged. Too many states are deeply in the red, and the job cuts that will follow this will hurt the state's budget even more- especially the ones on the brink already.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 12:52 AM by xstealth
Originally posted by jam321
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post by xstealth



Your probably right about the lawsuits. But if the states can get the first court to rule the bill unconstitutional, doesn't that put the brakes on the whole deal until the next appeal court chimes in.

I'll be impressed when I start seeing succession; nothing speaks louder then that.


What state do you think would be the first to declare?



I don't think this bill will ever be ruled unconstitutional, even if it is. I've lost all faith in supreme court, and don't expect anything from them. The last ruling that corporations have the same rights as people put the nail in the coffin for that one.

As for what state goes first...Sadly I think none, the liberal population has invaded all the southern states. If one did it would be SC, TX, AL I think. But if I knew that I would already be looking for property tonight.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 12:56 AM by ripcontrol
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Texas



I think it is because it will lead to a much stronger Federal Government. None of them are prepared to succeed at the endeavor.

If I didnt know better I think they are hoping for it.



reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 12:57 AM by jam321
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Pretty sure the bill has been checked 1000 times if it's within constitutional laws or not


Hope they aren't the same minded lawyers who believed Torture was constitutional.

Even lawyers make mistake.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 01:17 AM by jam321
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What you think about this?

According to Eric, Justice Scalia was the only justice to respond. His brief letter read:

I am afraid I cannot be of much help with your problem, principally because I cannot imagine that such a question could ever reach the Supreme Court. To begin with, the answer is clear. If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. (Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, “one Nation, indivisible.”) Secondly, I find it difficult to envision who the parties to this lawsuit might be. Is the State suing the United States for a declaratory judgment? But the United States cannot be sued without its consent, and it has not consented to this sort of suit.


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