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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Who made you God, allowing you to kill as you see fit? Unwanted? Should have used self control if you did not "want" the child. Probably unwanted because the child would cramp your style, and that can't be tolerated in a society that worships self over anything else. Unplanned? That means you can kill it? Unhealthy? So, you suggest we kill unhealthy people?
Rationalize however you want, it comes down to being a selfish scum, placing the desires and conveniances of one's self over the life of one who should be most secure with its mother.
This is nothing more than a sign of the times and an indicator of our national depravity.
Originally posted by ashley
And what's wrong with that. Maybe you did use self-control maybe you didn't. Does it really matter. Some people just dont want children.
Maybe people don't want children because it would cramp their style, again whats wrong with that?
I know I dont want children and if there is a procedure that can fix that I am not afraid to use it.
There are lots of reasons why people don't want kids. Good for them there are too many anyways.
You make it sound like being self-centered and above the life of a fetus is a bad thing.
Originally posted by ashley
You make it sound like being self-centered and above the life of a fetus is a bad thing.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
REPEAT AFTER ME, no time in history has the idea of "right to choose" been confused with "right to murder". Only a twisted mind can tie that in with a right, constitutionally protected or not.
REPEAT AFTER ME, ABORTION IS NOTHING MORE THAN A HUMAN SACRIFICE TO THE GOD OF HUMANISM, WHICH IS THE SELFISH INDIVIDUAL.
Love to stick around and discuss this, but I have to go to work. Responsibility dictates it. My son needs new soccor shoes. He's cramped my style in an immature way, I suppose, but he is still a real gift from God.
Originally posted by Hoppinmad1
Not for the judge by the judge.
Well I know the supreme court is just another set of the checks and balances but the way they have been deciding things lately just makes me sick.
Originally posted by Venus
Originally posted by ashley
Thats good, I am glad bush was overruled. Bush was selected with a minority of the public behind him. Now he has even less support than that. I dont want him making any decisions for the majority of the country.
The minority should not be making decisions for the majority. Im glad this judge was paying attention and doing her job.
Bravo!
I'm still voting for BUSH..........try again
Originally posted by Venus
PLEASE DON'T EVEN TRY TO LECTURE ME ON THIS ONE......YOU WILL LOOSE.
I am pro-choice..........I do not advocate murder......I fight for a woman right to choose and any restrictions placed on that, IMO, is constitutionally wrong. Let me give you a little education.
[Edited on 6/2/2004 by Venus]
Originally posted by ashley
Good for you, I was just complimenting the judge on doing her job. She shouldn't bow down, she shouldn't let bush pressure her and she should do what the people want.
Bush is not very influential and not very powerful and she did what the people want.
She knows he'll be gone shortly, but the decisions made under his pressure will be around for a long time.
We agree on that. She did the right thing.
Originally posted by namehere
well if she was thinking and not slutting around she wouldnt have gotten knocked up, her fault, her responsibility, suffer with it and deal with the mess she made.
Originally posted by Venus
Repeat after me......RIGHT TO CHOOSE. It's that simple folks. Just leave it up to the women...ok? It's so simple to say "it's murder". Have any of you EVER been preganant? Faced with having to raise a child? I have two and all the parents out there will say the same thing " I love my kids and I'd do it again...without question". I feel that way too. I am not saying that all preganancies should end in abortion. I am just saying leave it up to the pregnant woman. She is the one who has the cross to bear and has to live with the decision....NOT YOU.
You might want to defend the unborn, helpless child and I can respect that. What I don't respect is the mothers who go ahead and give birth then either abuse the children or let someone else take the burden of raising them. 2,426,730 GRANDPARENTS are raising their grandchildren in the USA.
Originally posted by NarniaNamehere you are my friend but comments like that are uncalled for and kills this side of the argument.
A womans behavior, not unlike a man should never be an issue here.
[Edited on 2-6-2004 by Narnia]
Originally posted by namehere
no its true, if you go getting drunk and do that, it is the womans fault, its their choice to get drunk, im not sorry for saying that, harsh? yes but i believe it.
[Edited on 2-6-2004 by namehere]
Originally posted by Narnia
Oh and what of the actions of the man? Your logic is faulty and with attitudes like that gives my side of the argument a bad name.
Originally posted by TrueLies
Too young
Too immature
Can't take care of it, too much work
The dad's just as stupid as I am
We can't take care of it
Originally posted by namehere
well if she was thinking and not slutting around she wouldnt have gotten knocked up, her fault, her responsibility, suffer with it and deal with the mess she made.
Originally posted by parrhesia
Ah, so now women can get pregnant without a man?
A woman is as much responsible as a man for getting pregnant. What are you going on about.
A woman is a slut, but of course, not the men with whom she sleeps. Right.