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Women find their way right out of my life rather quickly if they try manipulating me.
Originally posted by andy1033
It does not have to be true info. A women wanted to blackmail me or she would make up horrendous stuff up about me. I had no money and did not want to know her, so she did.
The expletive scum has practically got away with murder, as my life was totally ruined.
If your reading this scum, your trash beyond any words in our rubbish english language.
Originally posted by timewalker
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
Women find their way right out of my life rather quickly if they try manipulating me.
I feel ya. On a personal note, I commented towards this in another thread of yours about my ex-wife. She was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, one step away from schizophrenia, she too was a master manipulator. Blackmail and withholding was the easy game, threats of suicide and attempts, was the game changer. I went through a bout of PTSD after that chapter in my life. The body can only take so much stress.
Originally posted by timewalker
Trust me a woman will be shown the door by me as well at the first sign of manipulation.
On a lighter note my pops always says, women, they have half the money and all the $#&*@, what are you gonna do.
Do without if they try to use it against you is what I tell him.
edit to add: not just a woman but anyone, will be shown the door swiftly.
[edit on 18-3-2010 by timewalker]
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Greed really isn’t the answer, what you horde and don’t need or use is really just depriving someone else of a happiness and quality oriented life.
Sharing is important and sharing knowledge most important of all.
A world without secrets would in fact be a world without fear.
Quote from : Wikipedia : Vice
Vice is a practice or a habit considered immoral, depraved, and/or degrading in the associated society.
In more minor usage, vice can refer to a fault, a defect, an infirmity or merely a bad habit.
Synonyms for vice include fault, depravity, sin, iniquity, wickedness and corruption.
The modern English term that best captures its original meaning is the word vicious, which means "full of vice".
In this sense, the word vice comes from the Latin word vitium, meaning "failing or defect".
Vice is the opposite of virtue.
Vice is also a generic legal term for criminal offenses involving prostitution, lewdness, lasciviousness and obscenity.
Illegal forms of gambling are also often included as a vice in law enforcement departments that deal with gambling as a crime.
Divide and Conquer, my friend, divide and conquer, it is a means to an end.
Not long ago I and other members’ authored threads about Cass Sunstein Obama’s Information Czar and his call for cognitive infiltration of government of proponents and supporters of the Federal Government to infiltrate 9-11 and other conspiracy groups.
At the heart of Cass Sunstein’s call for this was his academic work on what he calls ‘crippled epistemology’.
At the heart of his theory Sunstein feels that a person develops and has crippled epistemology when they reject traditional mainstream media news sources and government spokespeople out of a lack of trust in those sources and rely instead on alternative news sources that they do trust.
So at the very heart of his academic paper and quest is the belief that if you don’t trust news sources that are deemed ‘reliable’ by others there is something wrong with you.
In other words he identified exactly what in his estimation causes so many people to believe outrageous stories and lies in the mainstream news media is simply because the people trust those medias as a source.
If that trusted media reports it then they simply accept it as the truth no questions asked on its face value simply because they trust the source.
That is what is at the heart of the propaganda system and how it works is the knowledge that if people trust the messenger they will trust the message!
If they don’t trust the messenger that they won’t trust the message, so once a messenger is trusted people will basically believe anything that comes from that messenger regardless of how factual it is or isn’t.
They won’t investigate and they won’t question.
The only thing then that stands in the way of this always working are alternative sources of the same information who might report it in a more truthful or factual version. So the propaganda experts would very much like to shut down those alternative news sources by discrediting them through cognitive infiltration with the specific aim of discrediting the source and not the message.
In propaganda the sources is everything and if people trust the source you can get them to virtually believe anything.
In your thread about the couple having 911 called on them, you were pro-freedom, of our choice of doing things which are not legal, but anti-state in regards to the actions of those Law Enforcement Officers actions, yet within this thread, you made reference to the lessening of secrecy as a means to eliminate fear.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
In so many ways the divide and conquer principle is so easy to foster.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Since ATS does not really appreciate people duplicating posts from thread to thread I am linking it to the original thread as an external source!
There be more than one way to skin a cat my brave Spartan friend!
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
I don't really see the conflict in statements here but then again I might be missing something.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
In regards to that particular couple what they were doing inside their home during moments of intimacy are more or less their business UNLESS this is a big UNLESS sexual attitudes radically change to where people become more tolerant of a wide range of sexual practices.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Sex has been used as a control moral issue for a very long time.
Even today the differences in European sexual attitudes and American sexual attitudes are enormous.
Americans are by and large much more prudish and inhibited when it comes to nudity and sexuality than Europeans are.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Muslim nations are even more repressive in their attitudes towards sexual conduct, while places like Brazil make all but the Europeans in Amsterdam and some other Nordic countries seem puritanical.
How to have, when to have, where to have sex has been a control factor for religions and goverments for a very long time.
Most people in fact have rather unhealthy attitudes in regards to sex that are interwoven with a lot of guilt and shame and predispositions that actually would take a whole heck of a lot of fun out of it in my opinion.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Further the attitude regarding things like Marijuana vastly differ in certain parts of the world. In Amsterdam marijuana hashish and many other substances which are controlled and illegal here in the United States are perfectly legal there.
There is far less street crime regarding drugs and drug use as a result.
Prostitution is also legal in Amsterdam and there is far less predatory sexual behavior such as rape and incest as a result.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
So much of what is happening here in the west is a chaos that is being artificially created by making personal preferences illegal.
I don't think vice is as accurate a description as personal behavior.
Many people have formed very hard oppinions and perspectives on things that they have in fact never tried or done based on being 'told' it is ammoral and a vice.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
That's all about controlling people and who controls people is the State and they control them for a purpose and that purpose is called productivity and profit for the state.
They often sell it as a form of protection to the people who have developed hard oppinions and perspectives without any first hand interaction or knowledge themselves many of whom then don't want to ever experiment or discover because they believe there is some added virtue in not indulging those things in order to gain absolution from the state or a religious insititution.
As a person who is fluent and experienced in many fetishes I can honestly say that people do themselves a gross disservice by dismissing and rejecting certain things out of hand based on bad information that is really just designed for someone else to be able to control and profit.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Part of evening the playing field against the state is yes, very much going ahead and living freely and then raising awareness when the state looks to profit off the fact that some people are living freely.
Either we own our bodies or the state owns our bodies.
If we own our bodies we should be allowed to put anything into them and enjoy them in any way as long as it is not hurting someone else.
In that particular case two consensual and consenting adults were not hurting anyone else beyond their sensibilities based on instilled perspectives and instilled moral values for the sake of profit and control.
The fact that the latter imagines some one is being hurt through these actions doesn't in fact mean anyone is being hurt with these actions.
The fact that so many people do have utter comtempt for and fear of people who enjoy different things than they do and it is often entirely based on no first hand interaction or knowledge of their own but is simply an instilled perspective is in fact demonstration of a very uneven playing field.
So no there is no contradiction at all and by the way many people would disagree when it comes to what desensitizes and what enhances sensations as opposed to your opinions and they would likely disagree based on a broader range of experiences.
Multi orgasmic is nice for some but for others its more about the mental interplay and the dynamics that creates.
Its like my grandparents would say when I refused to eat my peas, come on try it you might like it, how can you say you don't like something if in fact you have never tried it!
Originally posted by Jakes51
Ideally, I view blackmail as an act of cowardice, however, I live in the real world and not an ideal one. One must protect themselves at all times. There are wolves in sheep's clothing. Moreover, lets call blackmail an insurance policy of sorts, that one takes out a particular person. It is a means to hopefully keep a person honest and a tool to lessen the sting of betrayal in the event it happens. Hopefully, one never has to use blackmail on another, but it is a good thing to have.
Originally posted by Jakes51
Now, some may call it paranoia, but I disagree. It is only the art of hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst. In any interaction a person will try to dig up as much as they can about you, and what is the harm of you doing the same with them? Nothing in my book, and it is a way of establishing an environment of trust. As long as blackmail is used to protect oneself from betrayal, then I see no harm in it.
Originally posted by Jakes51
However, I do see a problem when one uses blackmail for sadistic pleasure, financial gain, and for purposes of undue influence and control. The references of David Letterman's case and J. Edgar Hoover, are prime examples of blackmail at its worst.
Originally posted by Jakes51
If one should be afraid of blackmail, then that person should refrain from doing things that are deemed inappropriate or controversial by societal norms. That is the only defense against blackmail. They say the truth shall set you free. Very interesting topic SKL!
[edit on 20-3-2010 by Jakes51]
George Orwell :
In A Time of Deceit, Truth Can Be A Revolutionary Action.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Great thread Spartan.
I did enjoy the J Edgar Hoover videos, I'd never known how corrupt he actually was. That was intense.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Asf or blackmailing, I've never had anybody attempt to do so. Not succesfully anyway. I've never hid anything or done anything to be ashamed of, so when people tried to pull their weight with me I simply let them think they were doing something horrible to me.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
They'd later find out that I didn't give a rats arse about what anybody other than my family had to say or think about me.
It's a bit difficult to get a rise out of somebody in that mind set.
Kill em' with kindness is what my mother taught me...
~Keeper