White People want a Nation, what else is next

When White People want a Nation it's called racism.

When ((Insert non-white prefix)) People want a Nation it's called justice.

Why are other groups allowed to show pride and strive for a homeland but when White People do these things they are condemned?

[edit on 4/3/2010 by Dark Ghost]

reply to post by Dark Ghost

You are supposedly a philosopher...reason it out.

The white aka European people are the ones who went out and conquered other people and nations...called them colonies and treated their people as less than human. The effects of which echo in the world today.

The white people in South Africa and the United States created apartheid and Jim Crow laws.

The white people made systematic efforts to wipe out native peoples...the Indian here in the United States with warfare and disease...and the aboriginal peoples of Australia and New Zealand...and hunted the Kalahari peoples of South Africa for sport.

While native Africans indulged in slavery...white people...the Spanish first and later the English made it a growth industry...not to mention made it hereditary.

Need I go on?

Oh yes White people have generally never been oppressed like they have oppressed other people.

[edit on 3/4/2010 by iMacFanatic]

if you want an all white nation move to new zealand, i heard they have the least amount of minorities of any country. also if you want an all white nation you are a douche, and delusional, and not living in the real world. and you should probably die. the same goes for people that want a latino or black nation. the level of douchery is equal here.

Well I am against racism but if you people want to go well that is fine. Hopefully the rest of us humans can try to get along with each other.

Peace

PS Can the pan Africanists take a hint and go to your own country also.

I'm afraid they're totally, 100% legit. They have a flag.


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Looks like we're too late.

reply to post by Anti-Evil


They hate us.
We hate them.
Give the people what they want.

Those are three lovely general principles, fairly generally applicable at most times and junctures. Oh, and one more...

To each his own.

Surely there must be some desolate area where white people can officially be allowed to show a little group self-concern...maybe we can trade California for Haiti...or something...Sign me right up, oh yes please.

Then there is the added fact that most minorities pushing for a homeland as it were... say the Basques and Armenians... already have a region that has been traditionally theirs...what they really want is autonomy or nationhood.

We already know thanks to the Jews and Palestinians what happens when you take land from one people and give it to another and it is not pretty.

Gone are the days when a power can scoop up an entire population and move them in mass like the ancients did or we did with the Cherokee.

Besides whose land would have to be stolen to give these morons a

homeland

of their own?

Originally posted by TLomon
I really think this is a bad idea - I wouldn't want to live there.

One of my passions is cooking. I love combining techniques and recipes from different cultures into my own creations.

I can't do this without a diverse cultural base in my area. Take that away, and I would loose a big thing I enjoy.

We can learn so much from each other about food and life, yet people want to seperate us. It really is a sad day indeed.

You are sooo right. I can't live without my mexican, asian, italian, etc. food. It would be so boring. Star for you.

I think these "Aryans" should get their own homeland. I say, lets give them Antarctica. I mean, supposedly, that's where their homeboys Hitler and the crew slunk off to after having their asses handed to them by the Allies in WW2. A nice, big cold Island to ship them off to, where they can breed their wonderful "race" with their cousins and sisters, thus, leaving the rest of the world to enjoy the wonders of being human and diverse. I say it's a win/win scenario, and since there's no indigenous people in Antarctica to displace, they won't have to worry about that, either. Though the penguins might object, and the white supremecists might decide that the penguins, being half black and half white, are mongrel halfbreeds that must be eliminated to protect pure white penguins.

I lived up in Seattle for about 8 years, and I love the Northwest. Most people are white, especially outside the metro areas. They are also very friendly, laid back, and non-judgemental, very "live and let live". Th racists exist mostly in the Eastern half of the state, around Spokane and along the Idaho border, and even there, they are often living in their own communities. Even in the conservative east, the White Supremecists tend to get shunned. Not surprising, since alot of them tend to be hard ass criminals (manufacturing drugs, burglary, robbery, assault, murder, spousal abuse, ect). I found living in central California, especially around Modesto, that these idiots were a bigger, more obnoxious problem than in Washington.

I think super hot women should have their own country so I would know where to go on vacation.

reply to post by iMacFanatic


High taxes, insane crime rates, looming social chaos, cultural confusion, racism, and religious conflicts. Pluralism brings chaos and death wherever it's being implemented.

Freedom of religion? Think again, because it doesn't work. People with radically different perspectives on the most fundemental aspects of daily life, can't co-exist peacefully within the same region. This means you either let the groups fight out their differences until they've killed 80 % of their perceived enemies, or separate the groups and let them live in peace as they wish. This is the most realistic and pragmatic answer to pluralism. People like to live with other people who share their basic values and that is why multiculturalism and world pluralism don't work. We end up fighting each other silently through bitterness and social isolation.

Does this mean we should hate each other, or that racism is the answer? No way. You won't change anything in the world by hating other people because of their ethnic background. What you need to do is to recognize we want to live different lives in different societies, and as a logical response to that, separate. Cultural and religious diversity is beautiful, if it is preserved and allowed to prosper on its own conditions. If a nation or community ever wants to try out a pluralist platform, we should welcome it to do so, but from the view of a European majority that has had enough, including the immigrants living in Europe who feel they're facing racism and mistrust from the natives, we need to stop promoting something that doesn't work and is not in the interest of any groups involved--except those who profit from the increasing number of consumers. Culture needs to dominate the profit again, and pluralism needs to be trashed in the bin, along with the rest of the failed modern experiments of our time.

Wow, racism... and here I thought mankind had evolved beyond such ignorance.

Forgive me if I am wrong here, but no person of any ethnicity has any claim of superiority based solely upon his or her own conceived "race" (which doesn't even exist in the first place).

The arguments on the website are so weak; I mean "White people created modern civilization and modern science." has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever read, and they make no attempt at proving that statement (Yes I am aware they mention Christopher Columbus earlier, but they also claimed he discovered America which is both false and ignorant as well).

To be honest I'm pretty offended by this website, and I'm a "white" male.

Originally posted by Anti-Evil
know there is a few thousand miles of nothingness in Canada... what do you think...?

I find your thread very insulting and lacking intelligence!!!!

If you had your grade 9 education you would know 32 million people live here!

Dont expect any help from us if you cant even acknowlage our existance, dummy.

[edit on 4-3-2010 by SuperSlovak]

If you truly believe in freedom, then people should have the freedom to associate with whom they please.

That would mean that a group of (fill in the ethnicity of your choice) should have the right to build a city that caters to their belief in living amongst their own (fill in the ethnicity of your choice)

If you don't want to live there then don't.

You don't have to wish bad things on people who have different beliefs (whether or not you believe them to be wrong).

So, let the white priders have their own area.
Let the multiculturalists have their own area.
People should live in communities that reflect their beliefs.

reply to post by aletheia


all the middle class can do is to whine about modern problems. I couldn't care less about "modern problems," and here's why:

Patriarchy: The white, Western, middle class male invented and built almost every road, every house, every theory, every bit of literature you've ever encountered in our lives. Without him, we're nothing.

Income inequality: For every piece of careless immigration policy, minimum wage system and union mob people advocate, we'll effectively lower the wages for yourself and your parents, who'll continue to support either a government nanny state(Democrats/socialists) or multicorporation control(Republicans/conservatives).

Climate change: You want the infrastructure, you want the prosperity, you want the lifestyle you're in right now--we are a walking environmental disaster. No matter how much toilet paper we recycle, we'll never change this simple truth.

Iraq/Gaza War: Every super power tries to moderate fundamentalist enemies before they take over. If you'd studied history, you'd know, but since you believe we just all need to get along with everybody and have a giant UN-party, you're lucky at all to see the day, every day. The people who live in these countries don't agree with you, and they don't need your sympathy. That's why they carry guns.

Racism: One camp thinks white people are going to go extinct like dinosaurs by 2050, another camp thinks white people are going to oppress every single non-white individual in the world by 2050. The truth: we're just not going to get along, so society will decline as a result and everyone will complain and feel unjustly treated. Diversity? Ha ha ha!

Capitalism: The crisis of capitalism? We've already been through the Cold War. Not even China or Russia believes in socialist economies anymore. The problem is not the system itself, but what values we attach to it. If nations are greedy and kill their economies, they are motivated by wrong values. Money, we'll always need, unless you want to go back trading copper for dolphins.

You cannot trust the public, because it doesn't know what it says or does, and as follows, you cannot really trust the leadership that panders to that same public. It's a vicious cycle of stupidity. But blaming the People or the Authority doesn't work either. Instead, trust yourself.

Rather than engage this one philosophically, I'm just going to share my gut reaction. I am 6'3, pale and blond haired, yet somehow I'd never feel comfortable living in a place like that because my eyes are green, not blue, and I often use my left hand, which is surely a sign of the devil. Consequently, I would be disinclined to buy products manufactured or grown there. Much as I avoid buying Chinese goods.

[edit on 4-3-2010 by DJW001]

I wonder what would happen to the earth if suddenly eveyone went colorblind and could only see people through thermal vision...either your warm or your dead sort of thing but with no ability to determine the color of their skin.

would we have smellists or voiceism to replace the visual issues?

I just hope the average american is smarter then the topic writer. But i know im pushing my luck.

reply to post by SuperSlovak


I think that is easy. What bothers me is that he will not relocate to "white freedom land" but will just stay here and and spew pro racist news right here!

I would love all white racists and Black nationalists would simple find their only countries and leave us triers alone.

reply to post by Tiger5


Whats easy? Pronounciate.

Im not supremist, i just hate when uneducated people make silly posts.