Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
However... it is exceptionally disappointing to have seen how many ATS members avoid politics completely. And that must change... here's
We are obligated to be political...
As people who claim to be concerned about conspiracy theories, we cannot and should not avoid politics.
I have to agree with you...
I am one of those that tried to get involved in political discussions, but I just felt as though my understanding of politics was nowhere near the
level that some ATS members seem to have regarding such a topic.
Maybe it is the way we all percieve things differently. Maybe there are some important things I/we are missing regarding the knowledgable facts of
I found that some things have a form of 'hidden meaning'. For example, Fractional Reserve Banking is a hidden truth. Pure, simple sentences is all
it takes to fully understand the banking system, yet it is uncovering this truth that many find difficult, yet is relatively easy to explain and
Time travel is another such issue. In my logical thinking way, time travel, as we currently believe to only be possible by travelling really really
fast, makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.
In my logic it's the same as sitting in your car and doing 30 or 60 or 120 mph.
The only thing that changes is the time it takes for you to get from a to b. You've traveled a certain distance faster yet time has not changed. But
most of the subject 'masters' seem to follow the 'faster than light' idea.
So, this is where I feel locked out of most discussions. My thoughts and feelings are my own and i am guided by the information available to me. If i
don't see something the same way that someone else does, then who is right or wrong?
We all read, or hear about, political issues every day. Currently we hear a lot about Afghanistan, the war there and the massive increase of Opium
sales. This reaks of politics and profits... and not much else. Yet the media candy covers such news in a way that makes it seem like there is a major
issue that is not political.
Diving into the world of politics is daunting for many. I love to discuss it, yet from my attempts, I felt like I was a little fish on a big hook.
I have ne real comprehension of what a 'far-right' or 'on the left' politician/person is... it just makes no sense to me. Never has.. Yet I am old
enough to have worked out what it means over twenty years ago... Is it because I have missed some meanings, or a point...
Or is it simply that all politicians are all on the same side yet fake their viewpoints in order to gain favour? Many of us here on ATS now know that
all parties and politicians are one and the same, no matter which way they lean. They are all snakes.. We have to be the lawn mowers to expose these
people for the fakes they really are...
What can I, and other members, do to improve our understanding of politics so we can at least have a chance of a discussion without being shot down by
some other member who uses political jargon which confuses and distracts.. just as politicians do...
ATS topics are riddled with politics... everything from earthquake and crop circle watchers to aliens/ufo topics and general chit chat... Many
members may not even realise the vast amount of political chat that they throw into their threads/posts.
Writing this, I wondered how many threads and posts actually discuss politics away from the political discussion threads... A map of this would be a
wonder to see. We might realise that politics on ATS is not dead... it's just spread across many different areas.
A believer of aliens and UFOs will discuss politics in the correct area, but may not discuss the same in a religious forum...as would someone who
believes in a deity will discuss the politics of his/her beliefs is not going to go discuss aliens.
This reminds me of the Kinsey scale
Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats. It is a fundamental
of taxonomy that nature rarely deals with discrete categories... The living world is a continuum in each and every one of its aspects.
While emphasizing the continuity of the gradations between exclusively heterosexual and exclusively homosexual histories, it has seemed desirable to
develop some sort of classification which could be based on the relative amounts of heterosexual and homosexual experience or response in each
history... An individual may be assigned a position on this scale, for each period in his life.... A seven-point scale comes nearer to showing the
many gradations that actually exist." (Kinsey, et al. (1948). pp. 639, 656)
We could apply this form of scale to all members of ATS (not their sexuality, of course) but their methods and areas that they post plus what they
discuss in those sections.
The political discussion areas cannot be an overall measure of all ATS discussion of politics.