reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984
So you know how much it costs to run yet you have a go at them for trying to make money to run it, yet you accuse me of failing? Dear me
youi're running low on arguments.
You’re another selective reader. The problem is not making money. This site is a business first
, and I understand this completely. However,
what I am not in agreement with, and will never be in agreement with, is trying to get us to trumpet the ATS cause under some warped ideology that
will financially benefit the owners of ATS. If you want money, say so. If you want donations, say so. However, don’t type up some warped thread
(most likely a distorted version of my proposed thread) and try to one up the people. And yes you are failing.
Because this is a website that has multiple nationalities, are you saying it's a USA only website? What a strange idea.
You aren’t making any sense and don’t understand logic. You told me that if I didn’t like it to leave the website, yet I’m telling you that if
you, or SO don’t like the way this country is run that YOU should leave. SO was telling us to speak out about how the country is run correct? So if
I should leave this website for questioning, you and SO should leave America and not question anything. Sound fair to you?
Again a strange comment when i continue in the same post you replied to, to post my problems with ATS. Seriously there is talk of trolling and
then you post this.
This isn’t trolling. I’m well within the confines of ATS T&C, and you simply don’t understand what was said. In fact, when I said, “Well say
it.” I wasn’t even talking about you.
I was doing no such thing and once again i pointed out the problems i think are clear, so how was i giving anyone a false sense of security? It
seems anyone who can simultaneously support and then offer constructive criticism is the enemy. You're either for or against it seems according to
I’m not talking about you. I made it very clear who the pimp was. Are you paying attention, selective reading or are you tired?
This goes to motivation. I see ATS owners trying to make money while also giving us a decent forum for free speech. You see them as only
wanting money, or at least that's how your posts come across. Remember that the masses are not on ATS, it is a small website compared to the masses
and when it comes to voting it is far easier for peopel to simply stop using a website than it is for them to use real political capital and
Listen, this is a business first. To be more specific, it is a business that caters to a specific demographic who readily accepts niche content. We
don’t have free speech, we have limited speech and are bound by the T&C. In addition, staff interpretation often curtails our so-called freedom, and
users like yourself, who obviously don’t understand the thoughts being conveyed, and instead butcher the context and premise, are simply salt to the
Hang on a second, you accused me of not mentioning my problems with ATS and then you agree with me? Do you click reply before finishing reading
a post and then go through it, bit by bit and not correct your previous statements? Seriously man/woman this is just ridiculous.
OK, it is clear as day you’re a selective reader. When did I say you didn’t state your problems? Let me make this perfectly clear to you because
you missed the point. This is why you need to stop quoting me and find some other way to communicate because you’re out of tune right now:
I have no issue with ATS trying to crank out a little more money for themselves because this website is a full time project. Anyone who has
ever run web servers knows that (yeah i've run them and set them up so i know). I am sure ATS now makes a good deal of money and i can't blame the
owners for trying to increase revenue. Let's be fair, they do try and put more into the website to make it better and it is a good place for
So what is the main idea that you attempted to convey in this magnificent piece? You’re trying to convey the idea that you see no problem in making
some extra cash and say they put in work so the site is a better place for discussion. I then tell you the following which you COMPLETELY butchered
Well say it. Why try to PIMP the users by giving them a false sense of security or value? What SO is doing is no different from what TPTB do
when it comes to voting, which is, give the masses and idea, or something to strive for, allow them to think they have power, direct them towards the
agenda and sit back as the dough piles up. Friend, this is Hegelian Dialectic. I'd prefer if he came out and stated his intentions not conceal it
under some do-gooder speech.
Well say it? Say what? Say you’re doing it for the money and tell the truth as to why you want members to follow this new campaign and parrot the
“Deny Ignorance” solagan that is what. I then go on to tell you that what SO is doing, not YOU, is no different from what TPTB do. I then go on to
tell YOU that I prefer if HE came out and stated his intentions and not conceal it. In other words “say it.” Say what? Say you’re doing it for
the bucks, or that you need donations, etc.
No i do not want threads about such things, i would appreciate it if a thread could discuss health benefits of drugs (pain relief) and the
rights of peopel to use drugs without it being locked down when someone mentions personal use. The post should be deleted, not the thread. ATS deemed
this to much hassle, which seems an odd business model.
This response, the one I’m replying to, is enough reason to NEVER have a forum about drugs.
I have read your responses, they were rude and condescending and i understand why they were ignored. When i talk about bias i mean political
bias, or even when a subject is distastful it is ignored and users can run rampant insulting the OP of a thread.
You can say they were rude and condescending till the sun goes down, till Jesus comes back, till UFO disclosure happens and till zeusadam gets his
horses, back. It makes me no difference. I’m going to call it how it is, right down the middle, and if you and other members feel guilty or want to
shun me for doing it I’m cool with it.