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In An Infinite Universe...

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posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by budski
As this is a metaphysical thread, I would have thought we could step beyond the mundanity of scientific "certainties" (which are nothing of the sort) and discuss the possibilites inherent in an infinite universe, which for all we know is what our universe really is, science notwithstanding...


Unfortunately, metaphysics has significantly more mundane "certainties" (which are nothing of the sort) than science, and when it's uninformed by science typically resorts to a feeble and groundless attempt to map language onto reality.

If an infinite universe is also full of infinite possibilities, rather than emptiness, then the chances of anything (that could logically happen) happening tend towards 1. Doesn't mean that Gods and anti-Gods would come into existence, as we don't have any particular reason to suppose that they're logically possible, and some reason (mainly their contradicting each other) to suppose that at least one and perhaps both are logically impossible. Adding up a lot of possible doesn't end up with the impossible.



posted on Feb, 27 2010 @ 04:53 PM
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If we have the notion of an infinite universe, this means that our subjective view of the universe is expanding.
Does this mean that we as human beings have infinite possibilities?
At the potential rate of expansion, the congruent possibilities demonstrate an order. The order is ratified as existence. We know that the universe has expanding potential because we infiltrate a system called calculable measure. The expansion rate is determined by the existence of the method by which we calculate phenomena. By using deterministic statistic, we influence the design on probable phenomena. Determined by its capability on inference design, we measure the existence through its capable design, which is classification. The probable order of classification removes the infinite posibility from our design, as human beings. Analytically speaking, your question on whether or not the infinite universe is reflected in us as infinite possibility, has brought to our attention, a fundamnetal breach in the assessment of universal vectors and their systematic exchange, in the synchronicity principle of the interrelatedness of things. To conclude: If we have determined that the universe is infinite, then we too, should exist in infinite possibility.



posted on Feb, 27 2010 @ 05:01 PM
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if its infinite then were just one possibility



posted on Feb, 27 2010 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by Ariel Du Plume
To conclude: If we have determined that the universe is infinite, then we too, should exist in infinite possibility.


In comparison to the universe, the infinite is metaphysical.

The universe is physical.

This allows for the possibility of multiverses, everybody in their own universe, a monotheistic universe, etc etc.

To transistion all these possibilities into a single world, or subjective state, then we could consider one metaverse, which is based on metaphysics. Note that a metaverse is more about the mechanics of the connections between each universe.

Before ______ complains about my words, these word are standard terminology in computer science. They all relate to a manner of simulation.



posted on Feb, 27 2010 @ 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by Ariel Du Plume
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If we have the notion of an infinite universe, this means that our subjective view of the universe is expanding.


Does this mean that we as human beings have infinite possibilities?



In the first part - not necessarily.

In answer to your question - yes, in my opinion, provided we survive long enough to realise it.




At the potential rate of expansion, the congruent possibilities demonstrate an order. The order is ratified as existence. We know that the universe has We know that the universe has expanding potential because we infiltrate a system called calculable measure. The expansion rate is determined by the existence of the method by which we calculate phenomena. By using deterministic statistic, we influence the design on probable phenomena. Determined by its capability on inference design, we measure the existence through its capable design, which is classification. The probable order of classification removes the infinite posibility from our design, as human beings. Analytically speaking, your question on whether or not the infinite universe is reflected in us as infinite possibility, has brought to our attention, a fundamnetal breach in the assessment of universal vectors and their systematic exchange, in the synchronicity principle of the interrelatedness of things. To conclude: If we have determined that the universe is infinite, then we too, should exist in infinite possibility.


I have a problem with anything like "We know that the universe has" because we don't know.

We just think we do.

I bolded your last sentence because it says profoundly what I have been getting at - the only difference is that I don't think we can arrive at the conclusion by any scientific, philosophical or metphysical means.

In other words, I don't think that humanity is ready to look beyond the physical mundanity of everyday life - at least in the west...



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 01:08 AM
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We are discussing the infinite universe. We have a notion of the universe as infinite because science has demonstrated this possibility by calculating formula to the suggestions of entropy. The metaphysical equation in state physics is presumed by the law of infinitisimals. Thus zero bound by two is a placement value in theoretical analogy that represents a dual cominator as a vector synthesis. This presents multiple possibilities in the formula of one action. The geometry of abstract continuity is used to demonstrate theoretical evidence in science. The algorithms postulated come from the father of metaphysical equation, Pythagoras. Having said this, I am not alluding to all scientific evidence as true. Science has failed to reconstruct the analysis of metaphysical data. Which is why I think they cannot unite two systems under different classification rules, to obtain the one true reflection, the fundamental action.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by Ariel Du Plume
We have a notion of the universe as infinite because science has demonstrated this possibility by calculating formula to the suggestions of entropy.


All that means is the evident incapability of mathematics to compute the universe as infinite if mathematics cannot compute anything beyond.

The problem is to assume mathematics is equivalent to the universe.

With a infinite universe, the universe could be physical or metaphysical. Obviously, mathematics cannot computer the metaphysical and math is all about physics and not about the metaphysical.


Science has failed to reconstruct the analysis of metaphysical data.


Only science that is made in accordance to mathematics is incapable of proper analysis of metaphysicals.

Quantum computers do not limits themselves to mathematics. The whole concept of quantum mechanics minus quantum physics is very logical. Within a simulation of quantum mechanics, we can then choose where we want to overlap mechanics and abstract physical data. It possible to compute the metaphysical universe, yet obviously our simulations are mundane is comparison when limited to physical resources.

Mathematics does have then end-all expression to itself for its own non-mathematical infinite, and that is known as Omega Infinite. It is obviously the physical infinite and not the metaphysical infinite.



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