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reply posted on 23-2-2010 @ 08:40 AM by Tormentations
reply to post by Golden Boy


Gravity does what sort of things alone by itself? Will does things alone on its own like create things. Think about thought...It is showing WILL create things imaginatively.

So I stand correct.



reply posted on 23-2-2010 @ 08:48 AM by Golden Boy
Originally posted by Tormentations
reply to post by Golden Boy


Gravity does what sort of things alone by itself?


Moves things.

Will does things alone on its own like create things.


Matter can be neither created nor destroyed. Will can only rearrange what was already there - like gravity.

Think about thought...It is showing WILL create things imaginatively.


What?


reply posted on 24-2-2010 @ 02:05 PM by The Matrix Traveller
reply to post by Tormentations


For Will or even free will to exist Awareness
is first required....

But what is Required for "Awareness" to be Possible ??? In the nonmaterial sense...

Without "Awareness" nothing would exist, two Components are required here.

a. The Experience
b. That which Experiences.

But how does human science research "Awareness" because this is dependant
on the Interpretation of the word Awareness and is a very, very complex subject.
So little is known about Awareness.

Nothing at all can Exist, whether in a state of energy or matter,
unless Will causes it to happen; Which I have to agree with you on this point,
but Will is Not the Root of All.

Awareness is at the base of Will, with two other components
which are opposites…

The underlying Algorithm is found in the Paradox.
Without the "Paradox" Nothing at all can exist not even "Nothing".
For "nothing" to exist, it (Nothing) has to be somewhere ???
Whether in Conceptual form or otherwise..

It is the "Paradox" that allows interactions.

Understand the "Structure" of the Paradox and how it came into being,
then establish the Algorithm of the Paradox and you will find the Answer you seek...

Human science, doesn't even know where the Universe is, in the all.
I am referring to the Location of this little Universes in the All.

But the human species Conspires against "Awareness"
and blocks knowledge in every way they possibly can,
so they will not find their root.

The human Species can't accept being second.
And more to the point are terrified of discovering what they really are,
they don't want to open that door in case the bogie man might be there….. LOL

Both religions and human science block the way to knowing the root of All.

The answers can be found in the "Self" but many Conspire against knowing the Self.
and can only accept the human Form they experience.
To come to know what they really are is just too frightening for them...


[edit on 24-2-2010 by The Matrix Traveller]


reply posted on 24-2-2010 @ 04:08 PM by TheWalkingFox
Careful golden boy. These folks are trying to philosophize about science and religion, while knowing nothing about science, religion, OR philosophy. That is to say, they're trying to look "deep" and "insightful" in the internet.

The argument presented depends on a presumption; that there is a "superior entity". It posits no evidence for this entity, except in a self-referential way; "I say that the only reason that there is X is that it was created by my entity, therefor that entity exists and created X"

No thoughtful analysis of the natural world leads to the conclusion of "creator" - note the caveat though, "thoughtful" - lazy and sloppy investigation can lead to this conclusion, usually by people too ego-driven to simply say "I don't know."

You can argue that it takes will to create. However, you're presupposing creation. This leads to a natural paradox; if there is a being with the intent and will to create, then he must have originated from ANOTHER being with the intent and will to create, then he must have originated from ANOTHER being with the intent and will to create, then he must have originated from ANOTHER being with the intent and will to create, then he must have originated from ANOTHER being with the intent and will to create, then he must have originated from ANOTHER being with the intent and will to create... ad infinitum.

Your creator has answered nothing at all, simply given rise to an unanswerable chain of nonsense, every scrap of it based on your own ego and no supporting evidence.

[edit on 24-2-2010 by TheWalkingFox]


reply posted on 24-2-2010 @ 05:51 PM by The Matrix Traveller
reply to post by Golden Boy


Where is the proof you exist I don't have any...

Please provide the Proof you exist...

After all I may only be writing to a compter...



[edit on 24-2-2010 by The Matrix Traveller]
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