Joe Stack IRS Suicide Pilot Conspiracy , page 1

I authored this article on Fascist Soup:

Oddities I notice:
How did anyone find out who the pilot was so quickly? - and how did the media find his obscure web site rant so quickly?

Then there’s this weirdness, how do you get stories this conflicting?

Stack, who moved to Austin from California a few years ago, complained he could not make a living with his software company, Embedded Arts.

Around 8 a.m., Stack's house in North Austin was set ablaze, officials said.

A neighbor rescued his wife, classical pianist Sheryl Housh Stack, a teaching assistant at the University of Texas, and her 12-year-old daughter, Margaux, according to KXAN-TV.

Other reports said the wife and daughter arrived home after spending the night in a hotel to find the house burning.

More weirdness:

Update: CNN reports that a federal official claims the pilot had set his house on fire beforehand, stole the plane and crashed it intentionally. The FAA said the plane departed Georgetown Municipal Airport, north of Austin, about 9:40 a.m., and that the pilot did not file a flight plan.

Opposed to:

Joe Stack, who owned a small plane, was missing…

The four-seat single-engine Piper Cherokee came in low, nearly hitting power lines, and was roaring at full throttle on impact, the witnesses said.

The tail number matched Stack’s plane, officials said.

Remarkably, though the plane hit a seven-story office building just before 10 a.m., sparking a 50-foot fireball and breaking most of the windows, only two people were injured.

Opposed to:

AUSTIN, Texas (CNN) – Austin fire officials say one person’s unaccounted for after a small plane crashed into an building that houses offices of the Internal Revenue Service. According to CNN, The pilot of the plane had set his house on fire beforehand, stole the plane and crashed it intentionally, a federal official told CNN.

The Federal Aviation Administration is reporting to CNN that the plane departed Georgetown airport north of Austin about 9:40 a.m. and was a Cirrus SR 22. The pilot evidently did not file a flight plan, according to reports. No flight plan is required because it is a VFR (visual flight rules) day, meaning clear weather.

Opposed to:

An Austin, Texas, resident with an apparent grudge against the Internal Revenue Service set his house on fire Thursday and then crashed [no mention of stole] a small plane into a building housing an IRS office with nearly 200 employees, officials said.

Federal authorities identified the pilot of the Piper Cherokee PA-28 as Joseph Andrew Stack, 53.

Now remember, this is a VITALLY important detail.

If Stack stole the plane, then there is no way to tie Stack to the crime.

It would be impossible to know who was flying that plane if the tail number didn’t tie back to Stack, at least until the rubble was searched and his burned body was identified.

There is also no way the press could have found and tied the suicide web note back to Stack so quickly unless he was identified by the tail number.

If the Fed’s go with the “stolen plane” route, then the entire thing is wildly suspect.

In his rant, Stack never mentions what exactly his plan was, so if someone just randomly found the web page and reported it to the media, there’s still no way to tie it back to Stack without knowing who the pilot was, being identified by the tail number.

Also, if Stack was under financial duress, how could he afford a plane? A seriously old beat up Cherokee will run you around 30K, not including maintenance, storage, and gas which are fairly outrageous. If the plane was a Cirrus SR 22, you're looking at a cool 250K for a used one. Thus, it makes the type of plane important.

Stack says he was wiped out and forced to dip into retirement savings before moving to TX, if you’re wiped out, typically you don’t keep a plane around.

Stack then says presently he had a boatload of undocumented income which caused him trouble with the IRS when he tried to report it. If its causing trouble with the IRS, then its not undocumented. And he must not have kept it in a bank or it would have been discovered. How did he pay for the plane, which he must have bought after moving out to TX, in order for his rant to make any sense?

Did he pay cash?

How long did he have the plane and when did he get his pilots license?



[edit on 18-2-2010 by mnemeth1]

reply to post by mnemeth1

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Why burn that house down?

Kinda weird how he would want to hurt his family by burning that house down.

I heard mention of a fight with his wife, could this have been the event that sparked his rage?

reply to post by mnemeth1

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Smart thinking, S&F. You described a lot of things that don't add up.

I was thinking some of the same things; whatever happens, legislation of more loss of liberties will be exploited by the usual suspects. Watch your 6 bro.

[edit on 18-2-2010 by 1SawSomeThings]

I am going to keep saying it in each of these threads.

One of the witnesses Megan Riley say firetrucks and haz mats across the street from echelon bldg, at the time of the crash. She made a point to tell the reporter this fact, and as soon as she did, he ended the interview.

Why were they there?

How did the miracle of no one dead but the pilot occur?

Link to my thread with the Megan Riley video:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Too many unanswered questions. I caught this story AT THE START.

The conclusions and information and IDs came way too fast.

reply to post by hotbakedtater

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Yeah, doesn't surprise me.

This whole thing stinks.

Nothing is adding up to me.

This is just horrible..... however you see this. In these depressive economic times I could say that many of us are "living on peanut butter and crackers" while our debt pulls us back. It is a sad fact, but to target the innocent is not acceptable. Like the IRS or not, the folks working in there, many of them, are just doing their job. And in these dear economic times they dont have much more of a choice as us. To target these workers, and not work politically against the government is cowardly in my opinion. I am pritty sure somebodies mother, father, brother, sister, son or daughter was working in that building. Many of those workers probably are suffering just as much, and I know some IRS workers who dont necessarily agree with the government. So this guy went about it the wrong way.

Apparently according to this guys letter, the start of his anger over taxes and inevitably the IRS was with this:

www.ssa.gov...
The 1986 tax reform act.

It lowered the top tax rate from 50% to 28% and increaed the lower tax rates from 11% to 15%. So this really benefitted many corporations like Enron as he mentioned and the politicians. It also as he singled out, benefitted Senator Patrick Monihyan of New York.

While I can agree with him on some counts, this was not the way to go about it.

This message of his got me to raise my eyebrows:

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

i2.cdn.turner.com...

It is still early so hopefully more information will come out.


[edit on 18-2-2010 by Southern Guardian]

reply to post by GeechQuestInfo

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Perhaps everything will shake out to make sense, but right now it sure as hell doesn't.

Conflicting reports on the type of plane
Conflicting reports on where his wife was.
Conflicting reports on stolen or not stolen plane
Conflicting reports on how he was identified

No reason for him to burn his house down
No reason for him to have a plane in the first place given his financial situation

No mention of hating his family in his suicide note

reply to post by GeechQuestInfo

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We have another conflict.

The creation date of the note CLEARLY states it was created 2 days ago, not several months ago.

That note was edited and saved 27 times in 2 days.

Rather than clarify, that only adds fuel to the fire.



[edit on 18-2-2010 by mnemeth1]

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