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Originally posted by cripmeister
reply to post by Malcram
So posts like this one isn't a problem here on ATS? BS like that makes people avoid coming here.
If we can't use eyewitness accounts from pilots, police officers and more, trace evidence, abduction cases, pictures, videos, radar reports and more as EVIDENCE, then what can we use?
The skeptic tries to belittle the evidence and they are flat out LYING about the evidence.
If we can't use eyewitness accounts from pilots, police officers, high ranking government officials and more, abduction cases, radar reports, trace evidence, pictures and videos as evidence then what can we use?
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
reply to post by Academic painter
Good questions and sure they will make themselves so obvious for us to tape
This is because they can hide in plain sight. No matter how many pictures, videos, eyewitness accounts, trace evidence or radar reports there are, the skeptic will just explain it away.
So they probably know we have a primitive mind set about the universe so there's no need to hide.
I'm sure when they do land on the White House lawn they will be asked why haven't they showed themselves and they will say, We have been here everyday and we have recorded them on cave paintings to videos but the useful idiots on this planet just explained them away.
I have never been to the Great Pyramid in Egypt. I have seen pictures, video and heard eyewitness accounts but I have never been there. Now if I use the skeptics logic, I should be a Great Pyramid skeptic until I visit Egypt.
It's the same with Ufology.
If we can't use eyewitness accounts from pilots, police officers, high ranking government officials and more, abduction cases, radar reports, trace evidence, pictures and videos as evidence then what can we use?
I have never been to the Great Pyramid in Egypt. I have seen pictures, video and heard eyewitness accounts but I have never been there. Now if I use the skeptics logic, I should be a Great Pyramid skeptic until I visit Egypt.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
It isn't at all like this. That you believe it is illustrates why you aren't a skeptic. Your critical thinking needs a workout.
Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
He never claimed to be a skeptic. Remember, he thinks that skeptics are somehow standing in the way of the truth.
He is treating this not as a scientific truth to be pursued but an evangelical call. Notice Matrix is not trying to prove aliens are visiting the Earth but trying to tell us why we should believe they are.
Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
Matrix won't provide the evidence for his claims. He will repeat.... he will never... Because he doesn't believe... Frustrated he cannot.... he instead... He seeks to.... He has confused...
To be certain, it is not simply skeptics he is after, but anyone who exercises critical thinking. To Matrix there is... A close-reading shows that Matrix Rising is ... I'd recommend that no one engage Matrix Rising. He is not an honest debater... see what kind of debater he really is...
People like Matrix need... It is born of an insecurity.
Notice Matrix's obtuse response.... Now, Matrix Rising will respond that... he is not self-aware enough to... he is making this exact claim... In a response to Greeneyedleo, he says... He is not addressing... my earlier point about Matrix Rising's closed-mindedness... Matrix Rising already has his mind made up...
Notice too that he .... nor does he... Instead, he lectures [I had to smile at this. M.] and addresses other members ... He is not self-aware enough.... Matrix Rising not only.... he outright vehemently....Matrix's response to... my earlier point about Matrix believing....This demonstrates Matrix does not....he thinks...
To be sure, Matrix Rising does not want debate, he does not want discussion. He wants..... [He is] someone who is insecure in his beliefs [trying to] feel better about himself.
... everyone, skeptic and believer, can see right through Matrix Rising...
He does not believe... Matrix probably saw... and read into them his own prejudices...
Even if Matrix were....it will only demonstrate his closed-mindedness.
We have neglected to ask Matrix Rising, though I doubt he will... he ignores...
Watch...Matrix Rising is going to...Then he will....They will be little more than....
Originally posted by EsSeeEye
Actually, Rex is trying to help people by showing how Matrix operates.