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Originally posted by Matrix Rising
Some cases I see as hoaxes and others are solid evidence that supports alien abductions.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
The skeptic will say:
It's a bird
It's a weather balloon
It's a kite
The person is lying
The person is mistaken
Think about how illogical this is.
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
I have to completely 100% disagree with you.
Ive been here over 2 years and I have NEVER read here on ATS anyone who does not believe that there is life outside of Earth.
In fact, it seems it is the hard core Alien/UFO believers who refuse to listen to logic and evidence presented that something is not of alien origin. So many people just refuse to believe that there are birds, balloons, trash, planes and other Earthly things flying around in the skies or even stars/planets and satellites above Earth. Absolutely refuse to believe it. Some actually believe that every single light in the sky is an alien UFO. Other believe that every single blur or dust particle caught in a photo is some alien or supernatural entity.
Sometimes, the truth is boring and explainable. And people just dont like this.
I see thread after thread of people posting absolute crap or posting very questionable things. As soon as an explanation is given or someone does some research and presents why questionable object is of human origin, the die hard believers start calling names and trashing the evidence presented.
I am here every day and I really see a completely different picture than you.
Majority of people here believe life exists outside of our little planet. But IMO, most people choose to use logic and analyze first - before claiming "alien origin" first.
[edit on January 31st 2010 by greeneyedleo]
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Majority of people here believe life exists outside of our little planet. But IMO, most people choose to use logic and analyze first - before claiming "alien origin" first.
Originally posted by Jazzyguy
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Majority of people here believe life exists outside of our little planet. But IMO, most people choose to use logic and analyze first - before claiming "alien origin" first.
It's not about the majority, it's about the small portion that is quite radical from either side. Regarding the silly thread that is just too hardcore, doesn't the grey area exist precisely for that purpose? I just don't see any problem there.
The Gray Area is a discussion forum that provides a dedicated area for members to post their confessions, disclosures, and related extraordinary personal experiences. Like the highly speculative Skunk Works forum, The Gray Area will tolerate topics that may be unusually hypothetical or unproven for the purpose of vetting the stories of thread-starters by the ATS membership at large.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
This is because they start with the priori that extraterrestrial and or extradimensional beings don't exist.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
For instance, when Edgar Mitchell talked about extraterrestrials, the skeptics didn't say let's examine what he's saying. The skeptics didn't weigh the evidence. The skeptics called him a senile old man and accused him of lying.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
When the skeptic asks for evidence it's a joke. They already believe that extraterrestrials and or extradimensional beings don't exist.
Glowing, Egg-Shaped Object:
Parker and Hickson were good friends, and often fished together. They were both living in the town of Gautier, Mississippi. On one particular night, they were fishing the waters of the Pascagoula River, when they heard a strange sound... a type of buzzing. The two men immediately turned to see what the source of the strange noise was. They were shocked to see an egg-shaped object with bluish front lighting. The object was only a few feet above the water, and about ten yards from the two frightened fishermen.
Three Strange Beings:
While they sat stunned, looking at the weird flying machine, a door opened in the UFO, and to their utter amazement, three beings of unknown origin began to float toward the two. The beings did have legs, but did not use them-they literally floated across the water toward Hickson and Parker. The two fishermen would later attempt to describe what the beings looked like "... about five feet tall, had bullet-shaped heads without necks, slits for mouths, and where their noses or ears would be, they had thin, conical objects sticking out, like carrots from a snowman's head."
Harder and Hynek did a lot of the investigative work together. The two well-known researchers first interviewed the two fishermen together. Harder tried to do regressive hypnosis on Hickson, but the abductee was so frightened, that the hypnosis was stopped. To get things off on solid ground, both of the witnesses took polygraph tests, and both passed without a problem. Harder and Hynek both believed that the two tormented men were telling the truth.
Esteemed UFO researcher J. Allen Hynek would proclaim that "... there was definitely something here that was not terrestrial."
1961 Betty and Barney Hill Abduction
1967 The Betty Andreasson Abduction
1967 Abduction of Herbert Schirmer
1968 The Buff Ledge Camp Abduction
1969 The Antonio da Silva Abduction
1973 The Doraty Abduction, Houston, Texas
1973 Pascagoula, Mississippi Abduction (Parker, Hickson)
1974 Hunter Abducted in Wyoming
1975 The Abduction of Sergeant Charles L. Moody
1975 The Travis Walton Abduction
1976 The Stanford, Kentucky Abductions
1976 The Allagash Abductions
1978 The Cullen Abduction
1978 The Dechmont Woods Abduction
1978 The Abduction of Jan Wolski
1980's Lost Time/Abduction in New York
1980 The Alan Godfrey Abduction
1983 The Copely Woods Encounter
1983 The Abduction of Alfred Burtoo
1985 Abduction of Wladyslaw S.
1985 Abduction of Whitley Strieber
1987 Abduction on North Canol Road, Canada
1987 Hudson Valley Abduction
1987 The Christa Tilton Story
1987 The Ilkley Moor Alien
1987 The Jason Andews Abduction
1988 Abduction of Bonnie Jean Hamilton
1988 DNA Sample From Khoury Abduction
1989 Linda Cortile-Napolitano Abduction
1990 Westchester, N. Y. Abduction
1992 The A-70 Abduction
1994 Abduction in Killeen, Texas
1997 Abduction in Wales
1997 Abduction in Australia, (Rylance-Heller)
1999 Carlyle Lake Abduction
2001 Abduction in Michigan
2003-Abduction in Florida
2004 Francis Family Abduction
2005 Man Abducted in Florida
2005 Clayton & Donna Lee Abduction
Physical trace reports were labeled Close Encounters of the Second Kind (CE-II) by J.Allen Hynek and involve instances where there was a physical interaction between the UFO and its environment. Usually these involve a landing trace, such as depressed grass or soil, but also burned or broken vegetation, residues, and more exotic traces. There are at least somewhere between 3,500 and 5,000 UFO physical trace cases.