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Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
Originally posted by JimOberg
Oh, yeah, give me proof that it happened -- like, a link to a web story quoting that nasty-minded skeptic.
One example with documentation, please?
Again, could you provide evidence of this? Provide quotes from skeptics that called Dr. Mitchell senile or a liar.
He's already been asked before to provide evidence to support his claim and he has refused. He does not believe he needs to provide evidence; you should take him at his word. Matrix probably saw comments disagreeing with Mitchell and read into them his own prejudices, equating disagreement with ad hominems.
"I just wish for once they would come forward before they became old and senile"
"...im not going to say senile old man lol but a guy out looking for a quick buck?...maybe... "
"Credentials don't matter--old age and possible senility do not discriminate. You seem to be stating that people with such credentials are not allowed to be viewed as old and senile."
"I think what was intended to say is that it is strange that this kind of well informed people always only start talking when they reach their pension....If it is all true what they say at an older age...Why didn't they had the urge to tell the world when they had a younger age? That is the sceptisism I taste here on ATS and that is the sceptisism I myself have... When I told my father (that has seen the first man on the moon live on television) about Edward Mitchell he started laughing. Just because he is a old guy that has got nothing to do, so he makes up a nice story, was my father's idea about this.
So I actually will not even mention this so called 'Ed Mitchell back-up story' about 8-9 foot et's...So far it is just a couple of old men that feel neglected after walking on the moon (which of course is/was great!) with nothing to do anymore. I also think that is what is behind Ed Mitchell and the likes. Instead of a bridge- or stampcollectors club they have brought us a 'alien-story telling club'."
"To label people like Mitchell and Clarke as senile just is ignorant, you guys have never met these people, accomplished even a quarter (being very generous there) of the things they have done yet you riddicule them as being money making old fools?"
"Fortunately most people who have done real research can jump past the expected rebuttals (mental, greedy, hoaxer, senile, etc.)"
"The second anyone comes forward, they are instantly called out...
Kook! Liar! Senile! Idiot! Fraud! Loser! etc etc etc"
"I really wish that some people would get over the idea that evreybody over some arbitrary age is senile. ... Deciding someone's "worth" as a witness based on age is no different than saying because someone is black, they must be of lower IQ. Or because someone is from Latin America they must be backward. Or that because someone lacks a PHD they must be a liar.
This person deserves the same respect you would want."
Originally posted by JimOberg
Anybody who resorts to such knee-jerk smears, let's get their home address and I'd go halfsies on a kneecapping.
Originally posted by MOTT the HOOPLE
Well if people who don't believe in ufo's or find any evidence provided as credible. Then why the hell are they here for?
Originally posted by nophun
reply to post by Matrix Rising
...
I am guessing 99% of the videos/images fit into this category...
Originally posted by Gazrok
(response to original post)
No, the skeptic says:
It MAY be a bird
It MAY be a weather balloon
It MAY be a kite
The person MIGHT be lying
The person MIGHT be mistaken
There MAY be a "natural" explanation
A DEBUNKER says the things you mentioned, and goes in with a set mind.
Skeptics (true Skeptics), try and keep an open mind, and see where the evidence takes them. Sometimes it fits the original hypothesis, sometimes it doesn't...
Originally posted by MOTT the HOOPLE
Well if people who don't believe in ufo's or find any evidence provided as credible. Then why the hell are they here for? I'm sure there views would be better served at Bad Astronomy.
Originally posted by Malcram
Originally posted by Gazrok
(response to original post)
No, the skeptic says:
It MAY be a bird
It MAY be a weather balloon
It MAY be a kite
The person MIGHT be lying
The person MIGHT be mistaken
There MAY be a "natural" explanation
A DEBUNKER says the things you mentioned, and goes in with a set mind.
Skeptics (true Skeptics), try and keep an open mind, and see where the evidence takes them. Sometimes it fits the original hypothesis, sometimes it doesn't...
You forget to add to your list that a true skeptic will also say: "It MAY be an ET craft".
Originally posted by Schaden
The witness testimony of astronauts, including Edgar Mitchell, is icing on the cake. Gordon Cooper encountered silver flying saucers. Dozens of other military witnesses have stepped forward, like Dr. Robert Jacobs, former USAF photographic instrumentation officer.
Originally posted by Faiol
if someone believes that we - as earth- are the only form of life in the universe, then you need to study a little more and get out of your mental sickness or mental prison ...
Originally posted by Reevster
Read my sig...below
Second line.