Unemployment rose in 43 states last month

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Only sure to get better with the new Supreme court ruling. Yes...let's give the same corporations that have sent all of our good jobs overseas for slave labor complete control of our government!

Sounds good to me. Damn Democracy. Damn our Sovereignty. Damn our individual freedom.

Screw America. GOD BLESS WALL STREET.

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I simply do not care anymore. I am struggling...millions of Americans are struggling and these GD mega international corporations DON'T CARE.

I'm tired of playing to ideology. I'm tired of hearing that capitalism/socialism is evil. I DON'T CARE.

The railing against the "progressive' movement was created to keep the poor from coming after the rich.

you can thank Glen Beck for that. He's misdirected millions into his rhetoric...and I was once one of them....but no longer.

F U GB. Gutless Pig.

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Him you think the progressive movement is good? Pick up a history book and read get informed. This is just like another thread I just read hmm it was also by you. Really pushing the agenda today I see. Good thing just like in your last thread the facts are not in your favor. I hate to tell you commie loving nut jobs but it will not work here we have a little thing called the constitution. So pack it up and try it on a weaker target I am sure most of Europe will listen.

And just so everybody understands the progressives better they will use what ever side will let them in. It is not a left vs. right thing it is a good vs. evil thing. Progressives are against personal freedom and believe the collective is more important than the individual. Also if you think spreading the wealth is a good idea look into the past Russia and China should provide good info on how the people really live under it. If China has it so right why can they not watch avatar?

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the facist big business big wigs see china as a perfect example of how a country should be as they have a population of willing slaves and an iron fist to deal with anything that gets in the way of whatever they are trying to do and nobody has a say otherwise.

And you want America to become that? If we take away big business what do you think will happen? wake up the have sucked you in using your own hate towards the greed they pushed to happen. We have laws to prevent this greed they just don't use them and we also have anti- monopoly laws we just don't use them. The system is sound its just been taking over by the very people you hate.

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Which has been completely compromised by the supreme court ruling. Now communist corporations can write laws. Any company from any country can now poor unlimited amounts of money to blackmail or corrupt anyone in our political system.

When Beck first started, he talked against TRANS-NATIONAL CORPORATIONS and how they are hurting our country. He spoke out against wall street and against teh bailout. I know what he's speaking about. Yes....some will only listen to one side of the argument. I don't do that anymore.

Where is he now subjective truth?

Will you care about his words when you have to take on progressive unemployment, social security, and medicare?

I'm sure that you will deny all unemployment and social security...and most certainly medicare.

After all...you are a patriot.




That's right. But they haven't been enforced since the Carter administration. Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama...all of them have let corporations flourish. They've compromised our tariffs to be almost meaningless sending all of our jobs overseas. Americans can't find good paying jobs...if they are even lucky to FIND A JOB right now.

Prices are going...wages are frozen or going down. Benefits are disappearing...insurance rate are skyrocketing.




The supreme court ruling silenced the middle class and the poor...therefore making the Constitution void. GO welcome your Chinese communist corporations that will now be supporting all candidates we get to chose from.

By the way...now I've heard it all. I've been called a racist, socialist, protectionist, isolationist, socialist, fascist, libertarian, liberal, conservative...and now...thanks to you buddy.

I can now add COMMUNIST TO THAT LIST.

I think this is pretty self explanatory if it walks like a duck.... I tend to think anyone who defends the progressives have a agenda that is not in keeping with the constitution and you seem to be a little mixed up. Like I said read about it and see the implications. And like I said progressives will use whatever will get them in they will even pretend to be on your side.

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Spot on, thats exactly how it is. For the other guy saying that we have laws against what corporations do but we don't use them, why do you think we don't use them. It's because the corporatons used their purse strings to lobby against making the laws toothless and used said money to make the big wigs in the govt. come down on any govt. official that goes after the wrong company or person.

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And you don't think that same rhetoric isn't being used by corporatists? You don't think Glen Beck isn't doing the same thing?

There are tons of books stating the exact opposite. I suppose the ones you think are right are the only ones that are right.

PLEASE. Spare me your narrow minded banter. If I lose it all tomorrow...and if you did too...you would not care about any of this nonsense.

So continue to go ahead and try to think you would do otherwise. you are only kidding yourself.

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And also Glen Beck is the biggest voice against them. Why if you hold the same ideals do you want to silence the very voice saying what you are? You are playing some kind of game and I see right threw it you hide behind the constitution and then gut it from the inside out. Neat trick at least you guys are getting smarter.

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And what is the solution let me guess the government needs to come in and take control right? The progressives are like vultures or chicken hawks they use the very thing people hate the most big business to screw all of us and you guys buy it right up. It has nothing to do with the big business it has to do with them. But you guys buy it and they use you like a 10 cent whore. The ends does not justify the means. Big business is corrupt so lets bring them down has got to be the worst idea in history. It plays right into their hands don't you see.

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I have my own voice. No one speaks for me but myself. No one speaks for you but yourself. No single person completely agrees with another.

Glen Beck is a corporatist. He says he is a capitalist...but he's really a corporatist.

he says he's a libertarian...but simply seems to ignore when foreign countries can influence our government.



Yeah, i'm playing a game. it's fun. I've been one of the most vocal critics of Obama on ATS...so please...save the BS for someone else.

How often do you listen to anything else but a Conservative point of view? I'm a conservative but I am willing to listen to the opposing argument to understand why they think that way....then question my own judgement and thinking.

You need to think deeper.

I think you are a using the conservative voice to push a agenda that is not even close to what you present yourself as. This is a great concern because I know very few conservatives that think the progressive way is the right way. It is almost like I said you a trying to gut it from the inside out. Please explain how you can be a progressive conservative.

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Lets make it simple are you a progressive or do you think they are right?

Whenever the media reports that "jobs are on the rise", they are using failed logic and propaganda.

First of all, it's always reported as, "Less people filed claims for unemployment this month, in so-and-so state."

Do you know what that means? It's simple really, when someone exhausts their unemployment, they have no reason to continue to file claims, because they ain't getting compensation. Just like myself and everyone I know, once the compensation ends, the necessity to file is moot. Therefore, you are no longer filed in the system, no longer a statistic.

It just means everyone is still out of a job and are without compensation. Whatever claims are being filed are from people who are recently unemployed. They don't keep track of who is no longer filing claims yet is still unemployed. It's a system to favor statisticians and propaganda.

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Where do you get your information to form your opinion?

WTF is a progressive conservative btw?

Is that a new label? Should I add that too the list?!?!

I really have no idea what you mean by "progressive conservative agenda". I simply don't know what's going on with that.

Information from a AP source was cited, and an opinion was relayed. Basically saying, "This is not good." Not much else was said, and I think we can all agree that it's still 'quite bad' as far as the economy goes.

So what exactly is the accusation/argument here?

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Read the OP posts it says the OP is against the corporations and that the progressives are not that bad and then in the same breath says I am a conservative? It is like some kind of mind game propaganda that makes no sense. If you are for freedom and liberty how do you not have that when you take the free market away?