Unemployment rose in 43 states last month

reply to post by Subjective Truth


Ok.

Let me explain this to you.

The supreme court ruling has allowed any International Corporation to flood our country with political money to blackmail/corrupt every single election.

This INCLUDES CHINESE CORPORATIONS...RUSSIAN CORPORATIONS>>>ANY CORPORATION.

Now you tell me who is the GD communist............since you think this is ok...perhaps YOU are a communist...perhaps YOU are a fascist.

Like I stated...you need to question what you believe.

[edit on 22-1-2010 by David9176]

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It's only a free market if the individual can match the "market" in liberty. At this point, they cannot. Individuals cannot compete with corporatist influence, the financial and caste spread is just far too wide.

Corporations just had their political campaign funding limits revoked. It remains the same for individuals. An individual citizen still has the same limits.

You're telling me that, because "anyone can be a corporation" that the market is still free? Do you feel that corporations and individuals should spend without limits in the political spectrum..? How far are we willing to go with this? The market is not free. It's an illusion.

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by TheCoffinman

 

I simply do not care anymore. I am struggling...millions of Americans are struggling and these GD mega international corporations DON'T CARE.

I'm tired of playing to ideology. I'm tired of hearing that capitalism/socialism is evil. I DON'T CARE.

The railing against the "progressive' movement was created to keep the poor from coming after the rich.




you can thank Glen Beck for that. He's misdirected millions into his rhetoric...and I was once one of them....but no longer.

F U GB. Gutless Pig.

This post is the one that shows it the most it is basically a commercial for the progressive movement in my eyes and maybe I am seeing it wrong. How did Glen beck misdirect exactly? And is that really the reason behind the the anti progressive talk? I smell very good propaganda or a very confused individual.

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Subjective Truth

 

Ok.

Let me explain this to you.

The supreme court ruling has allowed any International Corporation to flood our country with political money to blackmail/corrupt every single election.

This INCLUDES CHINESE CORPORATIONS...RUSSIAN CORPORATIONS>>>ANY CORPORATION.

Now you tell me who is the GD communist............since you think this is ok...perhaps YOU are a communist...perhaps YOU are a fascist.

Like I stated...you need to question what you believe.

[edit on 22-1-2010 by David9176]

Nothing I have written could lead you to this assumption I had a feeling but now I am almost 100% in my mind you are trying to spread some kind of propaganda and when corned used the oldest progressive trick in the book instead of explaining your position.

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How did Glen beck misdirect exactly? And is that really the reason behind the the anti progressive talk? I smell very good propaganda or a very confused individual.

Glen Beck demonizes progressives the same way Progressives demonize all Conservatives. Each one blames the other for ALL failings of our country.

Yes...there are those who have bad intentions on both sides....but that does not mean that all Conservatives...NOR PROGRESSIVES....mean ill will on everyone.

Most of them envision the best for everyone.

I'll state it one more time.....you need to open your mind and look at other opinions. You sound like the only thing you listen to is Glen Beck. I used to be there myself and it tainted my own rational thinking.

Originally posted by David9176
The supreme court ruling has allowed any International Corporation to flood our country with political money to blackmail/corrupt every single election.

You know, in order for a company to corrupt or blackmail an individual, that person has to be open to it.

They do their job, keep their zippers closed, they can't be blackmailed.

If they decide that their job is supporting the people, and not lining their pockets, they won't take a bribe.

Of course, that's all just a pipedream on my part, because 99.9% of the politicians in DC are just looking to make as much money as they can, and screw the country.

If you noticed the OP has never said they are not a progressive I wonder why? What I think we will see more is indirect methods used by them the direct method did not work. But to say you are for a free market and then say down with the corporations just does not add up. The greatest trick the devil ever did was to make everyone believe there was no devil. I am not a religious nut I am just making a point.

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Nothing I have written could lead you to this assumption I had a feeling but now I am almost 100% in my mind you are trying to spread some kind of propaganda and when corned used the oldest progressive trick in the book instead of explaining your position.

I give up.

First of all, please define the agenda you speak of. I'm not trying to taunt you, I'm being serious here. I don't understand what you are talking about..

There is no such thing as a progressive conservative, for one. That is an oxymoron, and makes no sense. It's like saying, "Republican Communist". I've looked it up and found some political parties in Canada related to some sort of "progressive conservative" ideology.. and frankly, I'm not interested in even trying to understand that.

So with that said.. what do you mean by 'propaganda' and 'agenda'?

Is it safe to say you are completely pro-corporation and 'free market'? At this point we're talking limitless free market. Everyone in this country is a free market supporter, otherwise there wouldn't be small businesses on local main street. What we're talking about here, is giving corporations and the wealthy more liberties over the individual. That, is corporatist fascism.



[edit on 22-1-2010 by SyphonX]

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Subjective Truth

 

How did Glen beck misdirect exactly? And is that really the reason behind the the anti progressive talk? I smell very good propaganda or a very confused individual.

Glen Beck demonizes progressives the same way Progressives demonize all Conservatives. Each one blames the other for ALL failings of our country.

Yes...there are those who have bad intentions on both sides....but that does not mean that all Conservatives...NOR PROGRESSIVES....mean ill will on everyone.

Most of them envision the best for everyone.

I'll state it one more time.....you need to open your mind and look at other opinions. You sound like the only thing you listen to is Glen Beck. I used to be there myself and it tainted my own rational thinking.

I don't listen to GLenn Beck and you should check my past threads I actually started one about how he has lost his heart I do think progressives are evil unlike you and it is pretty clear this issue has very little gray area. Either you are for free markets or you are not and I am not talking about regulation.

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Of course, that's all just a pipedream on my part, because 99.9% of the politicians in DC are just looking to make as much money as they can, and screw the country.

Well that is what I'm trying to state. No honest politician will have a chance unless they corrupt themselves as they will not be able to compete with someone who is already in bed with corporations. The opposition will be slandered relentlessly....and unfortunately public opinion is swayed by this. It sucks.

We are going to lose the few good politicians we have left. The middle class and the poor will lose representation.

this country is in enormous trouble.

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This is exactly my point how can the OP say they are a conservative and then push for the progressives and the end of the free market? Re-read the posts it is very clear. You do not even have to read between the lines they come right out and say it.

[edit on 22-1-2010 by Subjective Truth]

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This is exactly what I knew would happen when cornered progressives make it personal and then when that does not work run away. This is always the pattern over and over again.

Originally posted by David9176

WASHINGTON – Unemployment rates rose in 43 states last month, the government said Friday, painting a bleak picture of the job market and illustrating nationwide data released two weeks ago. The rise in joblessness was a sharp change from November, when 36 states said their unemployment rates fell. Four states — South Carolina, Delaware, Florida and North Carolina — reported record-high jobless rates in December. New Jersey's rate, meanwhile, rose to a 33-year high of 10.1 percent while New York's reached a 26-year high of 9 percent. Analysts said the report showed the economy is recovering at too weak a pace to generate consistent job creation. "A lot of states that had started to add jobs (in November) gave up those gains in December," said Sophia Koropeckyj, managing director at Moody's Economy.com.

news.yahoo.com...

Only sure to get better with the new Supreme court ruling. Yes...let's give the same corporations that have sent all of our good jobs overseas for slave labor complete control of our government!

Sounds good to me. Damn Democracy. Damn our Sovereignty. Damn our individual freedom.

Screw America. GOD BLESS WALL STREET.

Unemployment rates rose in 43 states last month, the government said


Should we really trust the government on this story? i mean really in all those 43 states? i wonder if those jobs are only part time and arent full time, thats a major difference.


1.These so called Good news numbers are only trying to help obama, since everyone is hating him now, because of the lies on which he promised seemed to have failed.

2.Why so fast with this data? are they are trying to cover up the real bad numbers? with good news about the Unemployment rates.

3.No matter how you or they spin it, the real number is still 20%.


Look at eupore, there at 10% hmm i wonder how are the EU going to spin it?

reply to post by Subjective Truth

This is exactly what I knew would happen when cornered progressives make it personal and then when that does not work run away. This is always the pattern over and over again.

I knew this was coming.

Ask some of the posters here if I'm progressive. Look at my former threads. Why don't you tell me I'm progressive/conservative.

I am glad though that you think it's perfectly fine for Chinese companies to taint our elections. Good for you.

Praise Chairman Mao!

We're not living in a free market world. We're living in a nation rife with corporatism and fascism. How can you not see that or admit to it?

You can say to yourself, with a straight face, that you have the same amounts of liberty as a corporation does? Because a corporation now has more political liberties than you, and they are the biggest influence of employment in this country.

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I know it's bad. i live in Michigan which has the worst unemployment numbers in the entire country.

1 in 5 men have no job. 20 percent!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why?

maybe sub can answer that for us.

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by TheCoffinman

 

I simply do not care anymore. I am struggling...millions of Americans are struggling and these GD mega international corporations DON'T CARE.

I'm tired of playing to ideology. I'm tired of hearing that capitalism/socialism is evil. I DON'T CARE.

The railing against the "progressive' movement was created to keep the poor from coming after the rich.

you can thank Glen Beck for that. He's misdirected millions into his rhetoric...and I was once one of them....but no longer.

F U GB. Gutless Pig.

What does this post say to you? To me it says the progressive movement is for the little guy and the voices against it are gutless pigs am I wrong?


I think we are seeing a new type of propaganda and this time they are coming with a "A" game.

It is Obama's job to tank the American economy, but to be slick and cool with his con-man lies and rhetoric in his speeches sayig the opposite of his actions and intention.....if you can see thru this....you see truth.

Brown at the moment is not a Messiah.....he is a savior in a way tho....but look for Obama to go into overdrive with plan B. to destroy America.

reply to post by Subjective Truth

I think we are seeing a new type of propaganda and this time they are coming with a "A" game.

LOL.....are you going to look at what I'm stating or not?

Do you accept the fact that Chinese corporations can destroy our political system or not? Do you think it's ok for corporations to send all of our jobs overseas for slave labor?

Cut the BS and answer the question.