posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 01:47 PM
There are many opinions as to what became of flight 93 on 911. Only until all evidence is released then examined to be complete in it's integrity,
can we be sure of what happened on that sad day in September. Many argue that it was a case of hijackers crashing the plane into the ground while
other argue that it was shot out of the sky. There compelling arguments on both sides. In my opinion Ii believe it was shot down plain & simple.
Below the site on the morning of 9/11/01. Some very small flames showing, not much debris and obviously relatively small in size considering the size
of the aircraft itself. A fact overlooked by many who argue that the did crash there is the question of why the site itself iis considerably smaller
than the plane itself. After all, the plane if we are to believe it did in fact crash there, was intact up until it crashed therefore the outline of
the impact point would be at least the size of the full plane. Not to forget that there is relatively low amounts of debris even though the FBI claims
there were 60 tons collected. OK, where is all that debris then?
Below is the crash site in Madrid Spain of a 747 that crashed. .
Below the Lockerbee Scotland crash site. When the airliner's transponder stopped transmitting, it was flying at 31,000 feet (9,400 m) on a heading of
316 degrees magnetic, and at a speed of 313 knots (580 km/h) calibrated airspeed, at 19:02:46.9. Subsequent analysis of the radar returns by RSRE
concluded that the aircraft was tracking 321° (grid) and travelling at a ground speed of 434 knots (804 km/h).
So where is all that debris located and I want to see it!! But the FBI refuses to release it because even in 2007 it still claims its in an
We had recently received a letter from the FBI rejecting our request for a transcript of the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) of United Flight 93, the
hijacked Boeing 757 that crashed in Pennsylvania on Sept. 11. The FBI's response to our FOIA request was that the transcript is exempt from the
Freedom of Information Act because "it could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings." I can't for the life of me figure
out what kind of enforcement proceedings release of the CVR transcript could possibly hamper. The hijackers are all dead. Zacarias Moussaoui, who
appears to have been designated as a member of the hijack team, didn't make it because officials at the flight school in Minnesota where he was
trying to learn how to steer a 747 were suspicious of that odd request and called the FBI.
Now if the cry's from those who claim that "conspiracy theorists" are hurting those involved in 911 such as familys & surviving victims, then why
won't the FBI just release the evidence or debris and put it all to a rest?
Langely Fighter Jets.
The fighters at LAFB were first placed on "battle stations" which means the pilots were in their cockpits with the engines off but prepared to start
them up if the scramble order is given. Some claimed that LAFB was never involved as that was a theory of mine in another thread. Turns out they were
The three Langley jets will receive a scramble order at 9:24 a.m. and are airborne by 9:30 a.m.
119th Fighter Wing, Dean Eckmann, Craig Borgstrom, Langley Air Force Base, Northeast Air Defense Sector
With all of the confusion that day, many controllers could not keep up with all of the radio & radar traffic being either recalled, deployed or
grounded. Many sources back this up. The fighters left to find flight 93:
Personnel on the operations floor at NORAD’s Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) confirm to their mission crew commander (MCC) that they are
prepared to issue an order to fighter pilots, telling them to fire on a commercial airliner. MCC Concerned about Possible Shootdown - Major Kevin
Nasypany, the NEADS MCC, is concerned about what might happen next as the day’s crisis unfolds. He realizes he may need to order fighter jets under
his command to shoot down an errant aircraft. He therefore starts walking up and down the operations floor, impatiently asking all his section heads
and weapons technicians, “Are you prepared to follow an order to shoot down a civilian airliner?” All of them affirm that they will issue such an
order if required to do so. Nasypany Confers with Marr - Satisfied with their answers, Nasypany gets on the phone to Colonel Robert Marr, who is in
the NEADS battle cab, and asks him, “Have we already asked the questions?” What Nasypany means is, have they asked about getting authorization to
take out a threatening aircraft? According to author Lynn Spencer, “Those authorizations, [Nasypany] knows, are going to have to come from the
president himself, passed down from senior NORAD command in Colorado Springs.” Marr replies that Major General Larry Arnold, who is at the
Continental US NORAD Region (CONR) headquarters in Florida, is seeking the necessary authorizations and is prepared to take any action required.
Nasypany then briefs Marr on the armaments on board the fighters NEADS has had launched (see 8:46 a.m. September 11, 2001). He adds: “My
recommendation, if we have to take anybody out, large aircraft, we use AIM-9s in the face. If need be.” He means that if there is another hijacking,
the most effective way to bring the plane down would be to fire a missile into its nose.
...going to have to come from the president himself...
And it did:
According to that account, the call occurred shortly before Clarke learns of the Pentagon attack, so roughly around 9:36 (see (Between 9:30 a.m.
and 9:37 a.m.) September 11, 2001). [Clarke, 2004, pp. 6-7] Clarke describes to ABC News, “I thought that would take forever to get that [shootdown]
authority.” But, “The vice president got on the phone to the president, got back to me, I would say within two minutes, and said, ‘Do
However, Major General Larry Arnold, the CONR commander, will give a different explanation. He will tell the 9/11 Commission, “we launched the
aircraft out of Langley to put them over top of Washington, DC, not in response to American Airline 77, but really to put them in position in case
United 93 were to head that way.”
One of the Langely jets came back missing something it left with...A missile. According to the flight hands and the guards at LAFB.
Flight 93's path towards DC and the straight route to intercept by Langley fighters:
Despite what others have said and continue saying that the fighter jets at LAFB could not intercept in time I think is completely inaccurate given
they were already in the air with others in the corridor. After flight 93 turned around it was tracking to the DC area. As stated earlier by Major
Arnold thats exactly WHY they were in the air...to intercept it before it could reach the DC area. Apparently they already KNEW that it would head
Multiple debris fields stated originally in many media outlets but after those initial reports of such, they were never heard again.
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