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We're Gonna Pass Healthcare No Matter What

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posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by David9176
This healthcare bill is nothing but a HUGE payout to big Pharma and the insurance company...yet STILL....all I hear from conservative radio/tv is that they are against Obama's socialized medicine...when it's NOTHING like that at all.

All this really is....a battle between the healthcare industry and other corporations fighting for the little money you have left.

Cripes people.

Thread here that pretty much no one is commenting on that PROVES IT.
www.abovetopsecret.com...


This is something Bush would have passed.



[edit on 18-1-2010 by David9176]


The healthcare bill - ObamaCare is all about moving the
Canadian Health Care System down here to the USA.
We also have a wonderful sideshow of a bribe to Louisiana to get
their vote and a bribe to Nebraska and a bribe to the unions
all with the CPAN cameras turned OFF of course.
I think that is just wonderful.
Thank you very much.


[edit on 18-1-2010 by Eurisko2012]




posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 10:55 PM
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Health care and the rest of Obama's radical agenda are finished when Brown wins Ted Kennedy's old Senate seat. Lots of Democrats are going to get other jobs when it's known that nobody has a safe seat. Brown is leading by 9 points now!



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 10:56 PM
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Most countries have this Law. "It is against the Law to Bribe or Influence an Elected Official.


Sign me up.


It's gonna take more hurt before things really change. I wish it wasn't going to be that way but there is no indication that it won't.

It's going to be a bad year. Republicans will ride it and gain many seats. Then they too will also feel the anger of a struggling majority of Americans.

Can you see it coming?



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 10:58 PM
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Brown is leading by 9 points now!


Good, I'm glad the banks will get to keep their 150 billion dollars in bonuses. Poor bankers, how they must be struggling. How dare they want to tax them!!!



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012


The healthcare bill - ObamaCare is all about moving the
Canadian Health Care System down here to the USA.


Put down the Glass , step back from the Kool Aid

This is NOTHING like the Canadian System , Unlike what your TV has told

you,

If you know any Canadians, ask them to tell you JUST 1 , JUST 1 name

of a Pharma company , or Health Provider.

Its not in their vocabulary.

Ask them what extra they pay per month , in any Tax Bracket.

Nada , Ziltch , Zero , Squat , Zip, None.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:05 PM
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I have a feeling the Republicans will win the House and make it at least 50-50 in the Senate. Meaning nothing goes until 2012,When I think the Republicans could get full control of the Senate and maybe a Republican President.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:07 PM
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We also have a wonderful sideshow of a bribe to Louisiana to get their vote and a bribe to Nebraska and a bribe to the unions all with the CPAN cameras turned OFF of course.


I know. Believe me. They are being bribed with taxpayer money instead of corporate money which the Repubilcans and MOST Democrats are more than willing to take.

This is just small tidbit of the corruption that is happening.

The corporatism that is happening right now cannot last forever. When it gets too hard for people to live then the movement will change. It's already changing....the movement is being tarnished though.

For a nation that has a 17.3 percent unemployment rate....I'm not seeing much on how people are struggling to make it. Right now it's just being used for political purposes and Obama has made a fatal mistake in ignoring jobs and pursuing Corporatecare.

Yes, there are some amendments in the bill that will allow states to try their own single payer system...but individual states could do it anyway without legislation if they really wanted to anyway...and most likely none will as many state deficits are exploding. That is how Canada got it done though. The bill also increases the amount of doctors allowed to be employed and also increased the amount of community health centers in the country.

That being stated...most of the bill is utter garbage...but that does not mean that Republicans are the saviors...not by a longshot.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:08 PM
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not exactly sure how this answer is relevant to the question...



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by Sean48

Originally posted by Eurisko2012


The healthcare bill - ObamaCare is all about moving the
Canadian Health Care System down here to the USA.


Put down the Glass , step back from the Kool Aid

This is NOTHING like the Canadian System , Unlike what your TV has told

you,

If you know any Canadians, ask them to tell you JUST 1 , JUST 1 name

of a Pharma company , or Health Provider.

Its not in their vocabulary.

Ask them what extra they pay per month , in any Tax Bracket.

Nada , Ziltch , Zero , Squat , Zip, None.

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Oh really? Have you heard of a GST?
When you buy a car in Canada they add a Special TAX of around
$15,000?
The Canadians are getting hit with other Stealth Taxes that you
are conveniently ignoring.


[edit on 18-1-2010 by Eurisko2012]



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:14 PM
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I don't even know why people vote these days. They do what they want to do regardless of your wants. The only way to really protest is just stay home on election day. I've been doing it for years. I already know the game. It's all an illusion.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Oh really? Have you heard of a GST?
When you buy a car in Canada they add a Special TAX of around
$15,000?
The Canadians are getting hit with other Stealth Taxes that you
are conveniently ignoring.


[edit on 18-1-2010 by Eurisko2012]


Yes , I have

Its a 5% , Goods and Service tax

(passes the koolaid as he types)

50, 000 car = 2,500 tax

Its a sales tax on, Hold it , here it comes , Goods and Services



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by Sean48

Originally posted by Eurisko2012


The healthcare bill - ObamaCare is all about moving the
Canadian Health Care System down here to the USA.


Put down the Glass , step back from the Kool Aid

This is NOTHING like the Canadian System , Unlike what your TV has told

you,

If you know any Canadians, ask them to tell you JUST 1 , JUST 1 name

of a Pharma company , or Health Provider.

Its not in their vocabulary.

Ask them what extra they pay per month , in any Tax Bracket.

Nada , Ziltch , Zero , Squat , Zip, None.


LMAO! So you actually think your healtcare in Canada is free? Does the Canadian government have a top secret healthcare magical fairy that just pays all of the expenses of the healthcare system?



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by ViperFoxBat
I don't even know why people vote these days. They do what they want to do regardless of your wants. The only way to really protest is just stay home on election day. I've been doing it for years. I already know the game. It's all an illusion.


It's NOT an illusion in Massachusetts.
Handing the health care system over to the U.S. Government
would be a disaster. They doctors know it and a lot of them
are threatening to quit and retire early.
The great people of Massachusetts are saving the nation.
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Coakley sure is making it easy with all of the novice mistakes
she is making.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:24 PM
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It is still a tax. That means somebody is paying for your healthcare everytime they buy something. The thing is you guys have a primarily sane population. A good quarter of our country is illegals, drug addicts, alchoholics, and fat-assed, lazy, baby factory single mothers. This place is going to be like Idiocracy in about 2 more generations. Brawndo! It's got electrolytes. What plants crave!


Maybe Coakley is loosing on purpose because even she doesn't want to see our country bankrupted by this idiotic health "reform" package.

Those crazy liberals are going to force taxes down our throat until we either choke or bite back. I say lets start biting.

[edit on 18-1-2010 by JesusChristSuperstar]



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:27 PM
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Wait a minute. I thought you said it was free?????

Now the truth is just starting to leak out.
This is so easy seeing all your BS.

Please ! Keep posting! I love it!


[Right now he is choking on his glass of Cool Aid]

I'm winning this argument with one arm tied behind my back.
I've been to Canada. I know the truth. Be careful.
They told me everything. - Medical Tourism - + Much...much...more.


[edit on 18-1-2010 by Eurisko2012]



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:29 PM
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Last post , no Quotes carry over

Dont answer sir , Im out after this

Just answer to yourself, 1 Last Question.

Do you think with the Repubs , things are going to be different ?

Good nite Gents , Be safe.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:37 PM
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He left.
I wonder why?


Some of you may be wondering what we are talking about.
See for yourself: Glimpse of what Obama has in mind for you.
GST - HST - MST- Play With The Letters all you want - It's a TAX!

More wonderful Canadian Health Care System Info:
It's Imploding! - Not My Words - See for yourself!


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[edit on 19-1-2010 by Eurisko2012]



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:44 PM
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I read in the article that Pelosi and Reid will deserve all the "credit" should a healthcare bill pass. I wouldn't think anyone would actually wish for a lynch mob



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:51 PM
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I read in the article that Pelosi and Reid will deserve all the "credit" should a healthcare bill pass. I wouldn't think anyone would actually wish for a lynch mob


Harry Reid is done. He's been done for awhile and will most likely have to retire and hope another Dem can take his seat. i'm not sure how Pelosi is doing in Cali but eventually populist anger will hurt the republicans as well. I just don't think it will happen in 2010. Republicans are going to win big. Then SHTF as they won't be able to stop/or even try to stop what is coming or way.



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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really? and what is it that Canadians have told you? that we can go to a hospital and get a surgery at no extra cost? or that we have access to several doctors offices and clinics, and specialists at no extra cost? im just curious as to what Canadians are talking badly about our health care system. because i've lived here my whole 24 years, talked to many people, and i have yet to meet a Canadian that doesnt like our health care. we pay taxes, yes. but with those taxes, i know that if i have a medical problem, i can have it treated without having to pay a bill to the hospital.

wow. i guess i've just been living with blinders on. i'd much rather not pay any taxes and have to go bankrupt with an emergency surgery at the hospital. i cant understand why anyone would want to pay a little tax here and there instead of one big life ruining lump sum!


[edit on 19-1-2010 by devilishlyangelic23]




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