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...and to our high-rais'd phantasy present
That undisturbed song of pure concent
Aye sung before the sapphire-coloured throne
To Him that sits thereon
With saintly shout, and solemn jubilee...
-- John Milton, At a Solemn Musick
Father of Jesus, love’s Reward!
What rapture it will be
Prostrate before Thy throne to lie,
And gaze, and gaze on Thee!
--F.W. Faber, My God, How Wonderful Thou Art
Originally posted by IntastellaBurst
Is this thread for real ?? how old are you kid .... 7, 8 ??
anyhoo, you can do everything imaginable on the other side, there is an overwhelmingly sense of peace, and true love. ... and if you ever get bored you can come back here, where everything feels so real.
I know because I've been there, .... most of you will read that, but not truly process it. I HAVE BEEN OUT OF MY BODY. anyone can do it with training.
I feel sorry for everyone who feel's there is nothing after life, .... but perhaps that's what you need to tell yourself, ... to make the most out of this lifetime.
Originally posted by IntastellaBurst
I know because I've been there, .... most of you will read that, but not truly process it. I HAVE BEEN OUT OF MY BODY. anyone can do it with training.
Finally, in five patients, brain damage or brain dysfunction is localized to the temporo-parietal junction (TPJ). These results suggest that the complex experiences of OBE and AS represent paroxysmal disorders of body perception and cognition (or body schema). The processes of body perception and cognition, and the unconscious creation of central representation(s) of one’s own body based on proprioceptive, tactile, visual and vestibular information—as well as their integration with sensory information of extrapersonal space—is a prerequisite for rapid and effective action with our surroundings. Based on our findings, we speculate that ambiguous input from these different sensory systems is an important mechanism of OBE and AS, and thus the intriguing experience of seeing one’s body in a position that does not coincide with its felt position. We suggest that OBE and AS are related to a failure to integrate proprioceptive, tactile and visual information with respect to one’s own body (disintegration in personal space) and by a vestibular dysfunction leading to an additional disintegration between personal (vestibular) space and extrapersonal (visual) space. We argue that both disintegrations (personal; personal–extrapersonal) are necessary for the occurrence of OBE and AS, and that they are due to a paroxysmal cerebral dysfunction of the TPJ in a state of partially and briefly impaired consciousness.
Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by Neo__
Becoming conscious means returning to a state of awareness by means of using ones senses. When we're not conscious, we're unconscious! As in, not interpreting sensory data. The brain still receives it, but there is no perception of this taking place. Self awareness may still exists, it's just absent of external stimuli.
[edit on 13-1-2010 by unityemissions]
Originally posted by IntastellaBurst
reply to post by unityemissions
If out of body exsperiences are directly related to brain dysfunction or lesions, ... why did I, and many LEARN to have them by our own accord ???
This is science's attempt to explain something beyond their capacity,.... Just as the world was once " flat".
I think it more likely that certain brain dysfunction's and lesions only make these people more prone to OBE"s than anything.....
Yet even IF that is the cause of OBE"s, ... does it render the OBE any less significant ?? perhaps that is simply the mechanism we use to accomplish such a thing.
and I have had OBE's while fully awake without any impaired state of consciousness.
OOBE
One explanation, which these (and other) researchers failed to consider, is that out of body experiences may be a natural, organic function of the brain. Their occurrence in near-death experiences seems to suggest that they are a part of the human death-process. That they also happen during seizures may have more to do with the unique pathology of epileptic electrical activity, which can recruit sets of pathways that otherwise would only function in rare states of consciousness. Almost any part of the brain can be involved in an epileptic seizure. If we suppose that out of body experiences represent a rare but functional kind of brain activation, then it's not so unreasonable to suppose that epilepsy triggers them, but that the reason that they are possible is that our brains are pre-wired to produce these experiences. The seizure may only spread into it's areas, triggering the experience. Further, the fact a few individuals are able to have out of body experiences at will suggest that the reason for their existence is not epilepsy.
(Warren Zevon/LeRoy P. Marineli/Waddy Wachtel)
I called up my friend LeRoy on the phone
I said, Buddy, I'm afraid to be alone
I got some weird ideas in my head
About things to do in Denver when you're dead
I was working on a steak the other day
I saw Waddy in the Rattlesnake Cafe
Dressed in black, tossing back a shot of rye
Finding things to do in Denver when you die
You won't need a cab to find a priest
Maybe you should find a place to stay
Some place where they never change the sheets
And you just roll around Denver all day
LeRoy says there's something you should know
Not everybody has a place to go
And home is just a place to hang your head
And dream up things to do in Denver when you're dead
You won't need a cap to find a priest
Maybe you should find a place to stay
Some place where they never change the sheets
And you jut roll around Denver all day
You just roll around Denver all day