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Originally posted by the_grand_pooh-bah
I'm in isla mujeres mexico,three miles off the coast of cancun,directly west of cuba.
57 degrees Fahrenheit here.should be at least mid 70s or so.
a mini or full blown ice age would be the same for us,we only live for so long and a mini one could be hundreds of years long.
better learn to ski folks
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
I was in Tulum this time last year and it was hot, do you live on Isla Mujeres (the island of women?). I went there in 2005, saw my very 1st UFO there, beautiful part of the world.
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I bet you don't have to be careful walking out doors because the iquanas are falling out of the trees!
Once all of the Global Warming Ignoramuses fall out of their trees, THEN I will feel safe.
Good Morning Friend.
LOL That my friend made my day. Exceptionally funny. I originally came to ATS thinking I'd find intelligent discussion and serious debate about crazy ideas but now I also find there is a bastion of humour unlooked for.
Good morning to you Professor, sorry for my tardy reply but frankly I am trying to deny what is the longest cold snap that Florida has seen since 1927!
If you start with the year 1850 to present, the temperatures show an overall warming trend. But if you start with the year 1930 to present, the temperatures actually show a cooling trend. So, are we warming up or cooling down ??
Of course, the Daily Mail made up a lot stuff for this article, like this whopper about the NSIDC’s work:
As NSIDC Director wrote me, “This is completely false. NSIDC has never made such a statement and we were never contacted by anyone from the Daily Mail. We hope that this is simply a case of very lazy journalism and nothing more.”
In an interview today, [Latif] confirmed that he accepts the IPCC’s finding that most of the warming in the past century was very likely due to human causes — “definitely,” he said.
He remains puzzled and dismayed by articles like those in the Daily Mail...
Call Dr. Latif up and ask him if accepts the IPCC’s finding that, as he put it, most of the warming in the past century was very likely due to human causes. He had me reread the quotes attributed to him a number of times, asking twice, “those are direct quotes?” After I did, he said to me: “I don’t know what to do. They just make these things up.”
Even if all the temperature increase over the last century is attributable to human activities, the rise has been relatively modest one of a little over one degree Fahrenheit — an increase well within natural variations over the last few thousand years.
While an enduring temperature rise of the same size over the next century would cause humanity to make some changes, it would undoubtedly be within our ability to adapt.
Entering a new ice age, however, would be catastrophic for the continuation of modern civilization.
One has only to look at maps showing the extent of the great ice sheets during the last Ice Age to understand what a return to ice age conditions would mean. Much of Europe and North-America were covered by thick ice, thousands of feet thick in many areas and the world as a whole was much colder.
The last “little” Ice Age started as early as the 14th century when the Baltic Sea froze over followed by unseasonable cold, storms, and a rise in the level of the Caspian Sea. That was followed by the extinction of the Norse settlements in Greenland and the loss of grain cultivation in Iceland. Harvests were even severely reduced in Scandinavia And this was a mere foreshadowing of the miseries to come.
By the mid-17th century, glaciers in the Swiss Alps advanced, wiping out farms and entire villages. In England, the River Thames froze during the winter, and in 1780, New York Harbor froze. Had this continued, history would have been very different. Luckily, the decrease in solar activity that caused the Little Ice Age ended and the result was the continued flowering of modern civilization.
There were very few Ice Ages until about 2.75 million years ago when Earth’s climate entered an unusual period of instability. Starting about a million years ago cycles of ice ages lasting about 100,000 years, separated by relatively short interglacial perioods, like the one we are now living in became the rule. Before the onset of the Ice Ages, and for most of the Earth’s history, it was far warmer than it is today.
Indeed, the Sun has been getting brighter over the whole history of the Earth and large land plants have flourished. Both of these had the effect of dropping carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere to the lowest level in Earth’s long history.
Five hundred million years ago, carbon dioxide concentrations were over 13 times current levels; and not until about 20 million years ago did carbon dioxide levels dropped to a little less than twice what they are today.
It is possible that moderately increased carbon dioxide concentrations could extend the current interglacial period. But we have not reached the level required yet, nor do we know the optimum level to reach.
So, rather than call for arbitrary limits on carbon dioxide emissions, perhaps the best thing the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and the climatology community in general could do is spend their efforts on determining the optimal range of carbon dioxide needed to extend the current interglacial period indefinitely.
NASA has predicted that the solar cycle peaking in 2022 could be one of the weakest in centuries and should cause a very significant cooling of Earth’s climate. Will this be the trigger that initiates a new Ice Age?
We ought to carefully consider this possibility before we wipe out our current prosperity by spending trillions of dollars to combat a perceived global warming threat that may well prove to be only a will-o-the-wisp.
n March 2000, Dr David Viner, then a member of the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit, the body now being investigated over the notorious ‘Warmergate’ leaked emails, said that within a few years snowfall would become ‘a very rare and exciting event’ in Britain, and that ‘children just aren’t going to know what snow is’.
Britain faces a four-day battle against one of the worst winters on record, with transport networks likely to be crippled across much of the country. With the South of England last night expecting the biggest snowfall for more than 20 years, business groups warned that the "deep freeze" could cost the economy up to £2 billion. Forecasters said that up to 16 inches was expected to fall in some counties. This would be the heaviest single snowfall in the region since 1987 when 65cm settled in north Kent. Between 10 per cent and 40 per cent of the workforce could be forced to stay at home. The Met Office issued an emergency warning that “frequent and heavy” snow flurries would continue into the weekend. Such an alert was rivalled only by the one late last year for the floods that brought havoc to the North West. Hampshire, Wiltshire, west Berkshire and Gloucestershire were expected to receive the worst of last night’s weather, with up to 16 inches of snow. A maximum of 15cm was expected on the outskirts of London. Snow to this depth would be the heaviest single fall in southern England since January 1987, when 65cm fell in north Kent.
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
I was wondering when you would show up. Have you seen any Iguanas falling out of trees there in the UK?