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Originally posted by Someone336
reply to post by mnemeth1
If the New Deal was socialism, then why was the National Recovery Administration filled with people from General Electric, Standard Oil, the Wartimes Industry Board (tied to GE, International Harvester and a host of other Wall Street corporations), Kuhn, Loeb & Co, and others, including the Federal Reserve. Now, before telling me that the Federal Reserve is socialism, please consider that the Fed is privately owned by a consortium of Wall Street banks...
If F.D.R. was a socialist, or even worst, a Marxist !, then how do we reconcile that with the fact that by virtue of his very last name, he was a member of the capitalist elite?
And finally, if the New Deal was socialism, then why did FDR not allow any socialist groups to have input when he was considering his options on economic recovery plans?
Comparisons between what FDR did and what is going on today is inevitable, so it should not be surprising at all that we find the same Wall Street cartel lurking in the shadows. They always find a way to survive, even if it means American citizens have to go poor and hungry.
It is a shame, though, that people are not allowed to learn the truth. Education is a cartel unto itself, self-serving to feed the machine. It's a postmodern world where concepts like left, right, fascist, socialist, liberal, capitalist, etc, are rendered completely obsolete. It's not solely an American problem; globalization sealed the deal and if resistance is needed then it must be fought on the soil of every nation. The only reason these concepts of yesteryear are still in wide circulation is due to corporate owned media dredging them up, finding ways to keep us in the dark and squabbling amongst our selves as we are robbed blind.
[edit on 8-1-2010 by Someone336]
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Prime example.
How many people here think Roosevelt's "New Deal" saved America from the Great Depression?
That has been discredited for a long time now.
Just Google "FDR policies prolonged depression 7 years" and you'll see what I mean. Hell, even UCLA agrees, not exactly the bastion of capitalist economic theory.
[edit on 8-1-2010 by mnemeth1]
Originally posted by Stop-loss!
reply to post by whatukno
So does this mean its my fault for signing the contract and fighting for the corporations instead of people's freedom?
Originally posted by ziggystrange
Complete dribble. I have a thread for you to post on.
Google this "George Bush is a Nazi" you'll get results, does that mean he is one? Google "Jesus was Gay", "elvis and tupac live", "Obama is a Homosexual".
Finally Google "gullible" and you'll see yourself there.
Ziggy
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Originally posted by Someone336
reply to post by mnemeth1
If the New Deal was socialism, then why was the National Recovery Administration filled with people from General Electric, Standard Oil, the Wartimes Industry Board (tied to GE, International Harvester and a host of other Wall Street corporations), Kuhn, Loeb & Co, and others, including the Federal Reserve. Now, before telling me that the Federal Reserve is socialism, please consider that the Fed is privately owned by a consortium of Wall Street banks...
If F.D.R. was a socialist, or even worst, a Marxist !, then how do we reconcile that with the fact that by virtue of his very last name, he was a member of the capitalist elite?
And finally, if the New Deal was socialism, then why did FDR not allow any socialist groups to have input when he was considering his options on economic recovery plans?
Comparisons between what FDR did and what is going on today is inevitable, so it should not be surprising at all that we find the same Wall Street cartel lurking in the shadows. They always find a way to survive, even if it means American citizens have to go poor and hungry.
It is a shame, though, that people are not allowed to learn the truth. Education is a cartel unto itself, self-serving to feed the machine. It's a postmodern world where concepts like left, right, fascist, socialist, liberal, capitalist, etc, are rendered completely obsolete. It's not solely an American problem; globalization sealed the deal and if resistance is needed then it must be fought on the soil of every nation. The only reason these concepts of yesteryear are still in wide circulation is due to corporate owned media dredging them up, finding ways to keep us in the dark and squabbling amongst our selves as we are robbed blind.
[edit on 8-1-2010 by Someone336]
The New Deal was a mix of fascism and socialism. Socialism is state ownership of public works and industry. Fascism is more collusion of business with government.
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Originally posted by Someone336
reply to post by mnemeth1
Technically, socialism is the worker's ownership of the means of production.