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Revolutionaries are angry at the wrong people.

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posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 08:51 AM
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Yeah, I think that Cincinnati will go back to the old Congressman as soon as they can. Even Bill Cunningham has giving up blasting the new one for the most part.

And I voted for Joe Shriver for POTUS in both 2000 and 2004. Of course it was only because we had met and talked after a rally in 2000 and I had read of both his campaign and talking points in Ohio Magazine, which is a publication very few have heard of and even less have seen. Think of your local "city beat" section of your paper that promotes hotels, restaurants and free concerts in magazine format.




posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 09:25 AM
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Why do you people always get hung up on freshman political science trivia?

WHO CARES IF THE SOCIALIST RAN A BUSINESS OR A GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT?

The organizational structure is irrelevant! It does not matter how you arrange the pieces so long as they DO THEY INTENDED JOB.

Why do you think "socialism" cannot be implemented using the legal construct of the corporation?

Why do you think government is always the answer (and the pinnacle of control)?

Do you not understand that superficialities are just that -- and what matters is the desired end-state/goal of the participants?

Government/corporations/academe whatever -- these are merely tools, technologies, brand names if you will that contain the potential for action.

That is all.

They are not Platonic shapes. They are invented and discarded as their utility demands.

Stop thinking like it's 1865 and your name is Karl Marx. Man, the inflexibility and density of the average Fellow Traveller amazes me some days.

And I am your sworn enemy.


Originally posted by ziggystrange
Logic is futile Someone336, submit.

New Deal = Socialism that is never going to change for these guys.

Besides he has Google.


Ziggy



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 09:53 AM
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And I voted for Joe Shriver for POTUS in both 2000 and 2004. Of course it was only because we had met and talked after a rally in 2000 and I had read of both his campaign and talking points in Ohio Magazine, which is a publication very few have heard of and even less have seen. Think of your local "city beat" section of your paper that promotes hotels, restaurants and free concerts in magazine format.


Good for you! Now that is researching your candidate, and voting the right way. More Americans should learn by your example here and follow what you have shown. These are important positions people, and getting to know your candidate is vital to making an informed choice in regards to who you chose to run this nation.

I stared that post, I would hope that ATS members would star that post as well. That is what needs to happen in this country.

[edit on 1/9/2010 by whatukno]



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 10:09 AM
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--whos fault is it?but yours--you should have investigated why you are fighting instead of just fighting for some dumb countrys freedom calling--you will be held accountable for fightinh a theft war as much as the leaders who sent you--YOU DO HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES i pity you if you killed in the war--so stupid--didnt ya learn from viet nam??



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 11:40 AM
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actually, the real culprit are Marduk and his minions, as well as other extraterrestrial factions.

Sure, we allow them.

But we are divided amongst each other. The average american citizen does not have as much power as those on the top and those on the top of the chain have made sure that only one kind of people can rule. So yeah, it is "us" but it's also not "us" because there is difference between the president, and the civilian, the CIA agent and the civlian. Also the media governs a lot. The government GOVERNS the choices, and so no, it's not all just the average american. He/she only has the power to do so much, and also has limited view of things, because that is also limted by the government. but it all leads up to the highest and that is extraterrestrial influences on our planet. Presidents don't even know they are guided by these influences. Even those top humans might not know. Some may know, but have a few things wrong.

Once you factor in exopolitics, your view entirely changes. It is no longer just us, it is also us and them.



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 12:42 PM
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Ok if no one else is going to ask, I will. What the hell? If this was baseball that pitch came out of the dugout!

What does Marmaduke have do do with politics and voting in this country? Sure a massive red dog is cool and all, but what the hell?



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 12:55 PM
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First off, yes, we dont have free market medicine here, it IS fascist....but its not socialism. The workers have no control.

As to the political system, yes, any idea of us having a "democracy" or of being represented is completely destroyed by the lobbyist system. Yes, we can vote every several years and choose WHICH rich man will represent us for the near future, but what they do after that election will still largely be dictated by the funds of corporate lobbyists. We need to enact some form of punishment for those that dont keep their word, and betray the public once in office. Just "not getting elected next time" is not enough for what amounts to betrayal and treason.



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 12:58 PM
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An analogy is that conspiracy theorists are continuously pointing their fingers at the wrong culprits. It's obvious that the ones that most conspiracy theorists think is behind the madness aren't.

[edit on 9-1-2010 by SpeakerofTruth]



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