reply to post by jmdewey60
Yep! I was hoping you'd catch that, since you've been reading Revelation studies. I cracked the book recently and was struck by that realization.
The book was written after the destruction, so the beast once was, now is not, but will arise again. Papal Rome was actually an image, Nazi Germany,
another image, modern American Zionism is the current image of Patristic Empire reviving the first incarnation of the beast. Rerun of Persian empire
backing of rebuilding Jerusalem and temple in Ezra's day.
The real prophets of God then were Daniel and Zechariah, though Zechariah was split between Yawistic and One God prophesy, similar to Jerimiah.
Zechariah went mad as a result, and was killed after proclaiming the future destruction of the grand project just started which at first he said would
last forever and Jerusalem would never be broken again. Mind breaking prophesying from vastly different sources. Of course Zechariah is my favorite OT
prophet. We are so alike him and me.
Ezekial, 2 & 3 Isaiah represent the looking back to Solomon's glory. As such they have nothing whatsoever to do with me or my simple Pagan beliefs. I
reject them completely.
The logical question would be: Why keep the Torah and cast off some prophets? Quite simply, the Exodus YHWH makes no claim of being the One God,
therefore the real YHWH is preserved as who he is: clan-god of Israel, and the One God who is
is allowed to be. In Ezekial, 2 & 3 Isaiah some
one else is claiming to be YHWH and the One who is
at the same time, thus misrepresenting YHWH and God at the same time.
This is evidence to me that some one is faking being God. There is some one claiming to be prince of the world, clan god for all mankind, a super YHWH
so to speak.
I say Jesus is my Lord(YHWH) for he is my clan-god. Who then is God? The One he and I both call Father. The One who is, the One who is completed as
One by acting in and behind the visible universe.
Contrast Jesus with 'the prince of this world'. Jesus was baptized and heard the regal announcement from heaven, "This is my Son, whom I love; with
him I am well pleased." He was then led to the desert to be tempted by the devil. The regal declaration made him messiah, what manner of messiah
would he be? One like Solomon or one radically different? Solomon bent knee to every imaginable god or 'clan-god' in the world, and he gained a
great empire that received tribute from every surrounding nation. Jesus refused to bow down to the all-in-one self proclaimed prince of this world.
The world empire of Solomon is not the kingdom of God and His Christ.
Seek, therefore the kingdom of God, and know that that kingdom is not the worldly power and dominion which is offered by 'the prince of this
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