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The Great Airport Scanner Scam

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posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 03:37 PM
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The Great Airport Scanner Scam


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Yet critics say that these, too, are highly fallible, and are incapable of revealing explosives hidden in body cavities—an age-old method for smuggling contraband. If that’s the case, a terrorist could hide the entire bomb works within his or her body, and breeze through the virtual strip search undetected. Yesterday, the London Independent reported on "authoritative claims that officials at the [UK] Department for Transport and the Home Office have already tested the scanners and were not persuaded that they would work comprehensively against terrorist threats to aviation." A British de
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posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 03:37 PM
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So, more invasion of privacy, more enriching of privaye companies for technology that DOESN'T stop terrorists.

Oh, sure, it'll spot a knfe or a gun, but won't reveal ANYTHING in body cavity hides, which are a terrorist favourite.

So why are these scanners being pushed so hard?

Well, for the less cynical, it's for our safety.

For those of us who are on the hardened side of cynical, it's about control.

And money.

A few years ago, 1 hour was the normal check in time.

It's now 2 hours.

Pretty soon, it'll be 3 or 4 hours.

3 or 4 hours to spend and kill time in what is basically a huge shopping centre with airplanes.

And then there's the airport surveillance - pretty soon they'll be able to track your every move, commbined with your CC records, they'll provide an ever more accurate picture, or PROFILE, of what you do, what you like, what you spend money on, everything.

And make no mistake - all that information will be for sale...

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posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 03:42 PM
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To add the the list of detriment these things are supposed to be pretty unhealthy as well. Poisonous even.

As we see ambulance chasing lawyers now rounding up asbestos cases from decades past I wouldnt be surprised to see ambulance chasing lawyers rounding up business travelers decades from now to sue for their cancers and sterility.



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 03:47 PM
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Just wait and see. One or two attacks or failed attacks to be staged against trains, busses and metro and you'll have those scanners in their terminals too. Might be a good time to invest to the companies that make them.



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 03:54 PM
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I don't mean to sound harsh, or come across as having a go here, but I would rather eat my own faeces than invest in any company remotely like this.

Money doesn't mean that much to me, I'm afraid, so I can afford to say this...

Howeve, the point you made is a good one for those who seek to profit from others misery.

No offense intended to your good self



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 04:07 PM
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I'd really like to know what companies make these scanners and how much they cost. Yes, great investment if one were so inclined... but also, it may paint a picture as to who sponsors such terror events. Remember folks, FOLLOW THE MONEY.

These scanners won't prevent a darn thing. Bombs will still make it on planes - just look at drug mules. Instead, they will be bomb mules.

Riddle me this: When was the last time an airliner coming to or from the USA was successfully bombed?




posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 04:13 PM
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There are several threads up about this topic, here is a link to one.

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posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 04:14 PM
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What costs are we willing to pay for a false sense of security?

Our Tax dollars?
Our Privacy?
Our Freedom?

When does enough become enough?

No technology is fail-safe. Just as humans are not perfect then no system or safe-guard we can envision or create will ever be perfect. There will always be ways to defeat them, ways to bypass them, ways to still do the things they are attempting to prevent. You can never prevent the truly determined.

So why try?

Who said that Life is safe? We have just as much of a chance of drowning in our bowl of soup than we do being killed in a Terrorist bombing of an Aircraft. Even in our own homes we are not safe with tens of thousands of ways to die within our innermost sanctum. To be honest, you are far more likely to die from a drunk driver or from domestic abuse than you are from Terrorism.

Safety is a myth.

The cost of any measure that provides a delusional false-sense of Safety is too great, especially when our Privacy and Freedom are concerned.

Me, I'd rather have my Privacy and Freedom and assume the risks of Terrorism than surrender them any day just to feel "safe".



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 04:19 PM
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Exactly - but the use of safety (the myth) as a control mechanism is very effective, and I believe is being used cynically and with malice to slowly but surely erode our freedoms.

Thing is, the more people I talk to, the more I realise that although many know what is going on, they just don't care as long as the impact on them personally is minimal.

Trouble is, once you add up all those minimal inconveniences they start to become major ones, both in terms of personal inconvenience and in terms of eroded rights - but until people sit down and add it all up, it doesn't register...



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 04:34 PM
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They could always turn up the "juice" on the scanners to lower the population count. People are refusing to take new vaccines and drinking more filtered water.

These scanners could be used for eugenics. Also, the security workers could be exposed by making sure the machines leaked a good amount of electromagnetic energy.

Your retirement funds would then just escheat to the federal government.



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by PsykoOps
Just wait and see. One or two attacks or failed attacks to be staged against trains, busses and metro and you'll have those scanners in their terminals too. Might be a good time to invest to the companies that make them.


I bet eventually you won't be able to walk down the side walk without getting a virtual strip search.

I dare someone to call it unlikely......



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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You are absolutely correct! There is no amount of scanning or anything else that will protect you on an airplane. A terrorist could just buckle grab up a couple of people and open the door! May not bring down the plane, but it would cause the terror and chaos intended! There is still the rather simple method of a Surface to Air missile just after takeoff or before landing! For that matter, a decent hunting rifle could probably due the trick as the plane is on its final approach!

People are routinely ready to give up all their rights and conveniences for a myth?!?!? No amount of "security" will protect you from someone intent on killing you! Remember the DC Sniper? That was terror! Nothing was safe anywhere at anytime!

If "terror" was what "terrorists" really wanted to achieve, they would attack our way of life! They would live in the country long enough to find out what really scares us, and what would really cause economic and social chaos, and then they would attack those things!

IMO, there are no such thing as terrorists! There are guerrilla warriors fighting for there causes all around the world, and then there are criminals and attention seekers looking to make headlines and get their face on the news! (And then there are governments and corporations looking to sell you something whether it scares the hell out of you or makes you feel better, either way they win!)



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by nydsdan
I'd really like to know what companies make these scanners and how much they cost. Yes, great investment if one were so inclined... but also, it may paint a picture as to who sponsors such terror events. Remember folks, FOLLOW THE MONEY.

These scanners won't prevent a darn thing. Bombs will still make it on planes - just look at drug mules. Instead, they will be bomb mules.

Riddle me this: When was the last time an airliner coming to or from the USA was successfully bombed?



I posted this in another thread... but it's probably more relevant here. Apologies if posting this again breaks any rules.



Last week the US Transportation Security Administration ordered $165m-worth of scanners, using both millimetre and X-ray technology, from L-3 Communications.

www.independent.co.uk...


This is L-3's website

www.l-3com.com...

There's a list of directors and top people within the company in their 'About L-3' section

Perhaps those with a finger on the US political, security, and military pulse might glean some info out of there.

I'm from the UK so have no idea who's who there.

From a quick cursory look on my part, it appears to be a main player in the military-industrial field.



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 09:40 PM
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That was sarcasm from me with more to follow. I don't invest in evil companies either. It might take awhile but they will install them to the airports. After that we get the made up "positive feedback" with news reports of happy families going through them. Then they will interview them and they will be like "I'm so happy about these new scanners. So quick and painless. I almost told my 6year old son here to bend over to the scanner because the officer looked so happy. I wish we could have one of these in our house". Then there will be the attacks on busses, trains and metros and everyone will be screaming for them to be installed everywhere.



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 10:21 PM
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the images are suppose to be immediately deleted, but i willing to bet money some enterprising agent of TMZ will figure out a way to get celebrity body scans onto the 'net. black and white nudes of celeb's. internet porn gets another shot in the arm, great



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 10:35 PM
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I'll say it now, and I will say it again.

Scanners or no scanners. The only way I am getting on a plane again in my lifetime is if I am allowed to conceal my own handgun for protection. If that fails to come true, I will forever be driving across continents. Or floating for that matter.



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 10:57 PM
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the following links contain the same info:



What he has made little mention of is that the Chertoff Group, his security consulting agency, includes a client that manufactures the machines. The relationship drew attention after Chertoff disclosed it on a CNN program Wednesday, in response to a question.


Chertoff Conflict of Interest

Chertoff linked to Scanner Manufacturer

Group slams Chertoff ...

can anyone find any corraborating information regarding this?



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 03:17 PM
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I am not a terrorist but I can think of at least 5 ways anyone can blow up a plane down using everyday items that NONE of these counter-terrorism experts have come up with. ('experts' if you want to know just ask - don't break my front door down at 5am). You don't even need to go through a single security check to do some of them.

If you watch the video below the guy basically says that the scanners are absolutely useless in detecting explosives that your might store up your backside or in your stomach.
So whats the point unless we all get cavity searched before catching a plane and even then how do you check the stomach?
This means there will never be a way to make it perfectly safe.

I feel all the checks that are being done only aggravate these extremists to do more harm. When I travel to the US you are treated like a criminal while going through airport security and they do silly things like putting their hands on their guns as if they might shoot you. Its totally pathetic and I would visit more often if they could act normal. Its all scare tactics and money making for big companies.. think about it.

www.youtube.com...




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