Concern as China clamps down on rare earth exports, page 1
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Topic started on 4-1-2010 @ 12:27 AM by silent thunder
This is potentially ugly. Lots of nifty technology emerging or already ubiquitous depends on the Rare Earth Elements (REEs). As stated below, for some reason almost all are found in China.

Gold and silver are sooooooooo 2009. I want me a stash of Yttrium, Promethium, and Praseodymium.




Neodymium is one of 17 metals crucial to green technology. There’s only one snag – China produces 97% of the world’s supply. And they’re not selling.

Britain and other Western countries risk running out of supplies of certain highly sought-after rare metals that are vital to a host of green technologies, amid growing evidence that China, which has a monopoly on global production, is set to choke off exports of valuable compounds....

China, whose mines account for 97 per cent of global supplies, is trying to ensure that all raw REE materials are processed within its borders. During the past seven years it has reduced by 40 per cent the amount of rare earths available for export.

Industry sources have told The Independent that China could halt shipments of at least two metals as early as next year, and that by 2012 it is likely to be producing only enough REE ore to satisfy its own booming domestic demand, creating a potential crisis as Western countries rush to find alternative supplies, and companies open new mines in locations from South Africa to Greenland to satisfy international demand.

Amid claims that Beijing is using its rare earths monopoly as a tool of foreign policy, the British Department of Business, Industry and Skills said it was "monitoring" the supply of REEs to ensure China was observing international trade rules.




More at source:
www.independent.co.uk...


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reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 01:34 AM by silent thunder
And on a related note:
China became the world's biggest gold buyer in 2009. I wish I still had the link, but in another article I saw recently, a Chinese economic official of some sort noted that China would implement a long-term "buy on the dips" policy regarding gold.


reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 02:16 AM by silent thunder
Originally posted by ANNED
There is another project getting ready to start if the tree huggers can be stopped from blocking it just because its run by a uranium mining company Ucore's Bokan-Dotson Ridge Rare Earth Project
finance.bnet.com...


The world will have to embrace nuclear power eventually. Its just that simple.

Short-term human greed always trumps environmental concerns, whether you or I happen to think they are valid or not. However, estimates say there is only enough Uranium in the earth's crust to provide for about 9% of annual global energy use. I guess we could start up breeder-reactors like France, but the thought of weapons-grade Plutonium on every streetcorner is a bit disconcerting to say the least.


reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 04:20 AM by Graybeard
Originally posted by silent thunder
Originally posted by ANNED
There is another project getting ready to start if the tree huggers can be stopped from blocking it just because its run by a uranium mining company Ucore's Bokan-Dotson Ridge Rare Earth Project
finance.bnet.com...


The world will have to embrace nuclear power eventually. Its just that simple.

Short-term human greed always trumps environmental concerns, whether you or I happen to think they are valid or not. However, estimates say there is only enough Uranium in the earth's crust to provide for about 9% of annual global energy use. I guess we could start up breeder-reactors like France, but the thought of weapons-grade Plutonium on every streetcorner is a bit disconcerting to say the least.


One would think this is true but nuclear in the US has been so effectively stigmatized that I wonder if the powers that be will ever acknowledge it as the answer. Despite the large majority of nulclear plants that have worked almost flawlessly for the time of their existence, there will always be someone squawking about the disposal of nuclear waste, Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

I lived less than 100 miles from TMI in '79 and the coverage of it was something else, even in the pre-cable network news days. It didn't help that environmentalism was still on the upswing and TMI coincided pretty well with the release of the movie China Syndrome.

Almost the entire country could be powered by nuclear for the cost of TARP or the "Stimulus" but that goes ignored while people reaxh for some perfect existence where all power is naturally generated.


reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 06:07 AM by mckyle
reply to post by gs001



No country is perfect.

I know Australia - or rather the Australian Government - has faults. As does every government.

China has faults too, but I still love the country and it's people very much.

It makes me particulalry sad when I hear Chinese people saying bad things about Australia. Australians in general have a profound respect for Chinese culture. And as you know the Australian Prime Minister speaks perfect Putonhua, and has also a love of Chinese history and culture.

It's good to be critical of a country's actions, but one should always take and honest look at their own country first.



reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 06:22 AM by yiersan
reply to post by mckyle



hypocrite?ah yes, i think most of us see that every sing e day in ATS ;)


reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 06:51 AM by mckyle
Originally posted by yiersan
reply to
post by mckyle



hypocrite?ah yes, i think most of us see that every sing e day in ATS ;)


Dui. wo zhi dao.

But does that mean it's OK for everyone to be hypocrites?
No. It doesn't.

I want to hear the views of our Chinese members as do most of the other members. Responding to a criticism of your own country by simply criticising another country, doesn't help.

You'll get much more credibility if you address their points and defend them with facts, rather than just say things like Australia is "greedy". That just upsets people and make them less inclined to listen to what you might have to say, and constructively argue with you.

What is your goal? to make people see your point of view, or to attack some lao wai because he makes a point about your country?


zhong guo wo hen shi huan

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reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 07:49 AM by yiersan
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don't put words in my mouth ;-) never claimed that it is ok to be hypocrite.... ah well... another thing many of us tend to do to others...


reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 03:35 PM by OBE1


reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 08:28 PM by mckyle
Originally posted by yiersan
reply to
post by mckyle



don't put words in my mouth ;-) never claimed that it is ok to be hypocrite.... ah well... another thing many of us tend to do to others...


Well you are the one who said that ATS is full of hypocrites!

So why did you mention it at all, if it has no relevance to your argument?

Do you think it's good for gs001 to attack criticise Australia when that country was not even part of the initial post by the OP?

China has few allies around the world, and with people such as gs001 attacking a close ally, such as Australia, do you think that is very wise?

It's certainly not smart.

But I won't waste any more time with you two guys because it will be blatantly obvious to some on ATS that you can't even manage to hide your real agendas and ID - very funny.

China needs to invest more wisely in their part time spooks.

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