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And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marveled at him.
- Mark 12:17 KJV
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. - Matthew 5:5 KJV
Originally posted by Hemisphere
The True Authorship of the New Testament
Read the following Biblical verse:
And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marveled at him.
- Mark 12:17 KJV
I've always thought that only a Roman could have written that. Give to me, your oppressor, everything of earthly value and as for God? Give him those intangibles that will soothe you. Give God your soul, your prayers and your allegiance. Those have no value to the Caesars. You are slaves and we your controllers have given you a creed that will sustain you in your oppression and lock you blissfully into that oppression.
The NT is full of catch phrases that prescribe submission to tyranny.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. - Matthew 5:5 KJV
That's quite a promise and as I said the NT is a submission repository in my opinion. I am far from alone as many have suspected a direct connection between the Roman Empire and the authorship of the New Testament.
Forget everything you may have learned in Sunday School. The New Testament was written by Roman patricians, among them The Calpurnius Piso family that was descended from one of the generals in the army of Alexander the Great. The family included such famous people as Cleopatra, the Ptolemys, Pythagoras, Flavius Josephus, and the Roman Emperor Titus Flavius Vespasiani. - fargonasphere.com
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace - John Lennon
Originally posted by Hemisphere
I've always thought that only a Roman could have written that.
Originally posted by Flakey
The New Testament was altered in Nicaea.
Originally posted by pasttheclouds
you read the NT as religion does,
you select what you can use, and ignore what you can't.
What jesus meant when he said that was,
that everything is controlled by god,
even Ceasar, but that you have to try to fullfill
your best under whatever rule or (religion)
you are at the time.
In a more absolute way,
he meant nothing is from Ceaser, all is part and from god,
render all to god.
The NT in it's absolute level of understanding goes very
deep into what God is.
Read how Paul connects God and Apollo.
(Before saying paul was not a real 'believer' as many say,
even when a plan is humanly made, they still act from a god allowance, in other words , a perfect plan,
let me add that this is an example, there are way more
connections, read the law, read Isaiah, God is one,
he is ALL, and the bible explains god hidden in
on first sight miscontradictions, in other words,
the bible gives you a choice, not an absolute,
on first sight, in deeper levels it explains the paradox of god,
thats why the bible seems to contradict, and the quran , and the torah)
Religions ignores this, to make their own case.
I want to add, that a god that is one, and responsible,
does not mean he is will justify your intention part of the dual level
of an evil act. What is one does not have sin, before it is
one it has to grow towards it, and that is the gospel
and the law. Love.
[edit on 1-1-2010 by pasttheclouds]
Originally posted by oliveoil
Yeah, Matthew and Mark did author each a book in the NT. Whats your point
Originally posted by Kapyong
Gday,
Originally posted by Flakey
The New Testament was altered in Nicaea.
*Sigh*
No, it was NOT!
The Council of Nicea had NOTHING to do with choosing the books of the bible - it's a common urban legend that is endlessly repeated on this web site.
But it's completely FALSE.
Please go read up on it.
K.
Originally posted by lordtyp0
Actually, if you read Mathew Chapter 6 1-34, the discussions are very anti-government involvement as well as anti church. He basically says that the relationship is between God and the Follower. Should never be on display as it implies the very act of display corrupts faith.
IMO that chapter backs up the thesis statement. The NT is peppered with all sorts of saying similar to what the OP listed.
Inclusive of statements that imply earthly life has no relevance aside from doing the right thing. Which the greatest important factor was described as "Loving All".
Originally posted by pasttheclouds
protector of Rome ?
no reply for that :-)
actually i tried to help you understand the parable,
and the way to understand something,
by seeing first the whole, and then understanding the parts.
Taking parts out of context will give you many un-truths.
It is the way religion handles the bible.
They don't know their God, but they think to understand
the Law of Him they do not know.