2012: Did it ever occur to anyone that just maybe...

reply to post by Khaaaaaan!!


Yeah, there are some interesting stories out there about the auther, Robert Morning Sky.

His website has been altered, taken down, had disclaimers and retractions over the years. Bottom line is, it sounds like this guy has been harrassed incessantly, since the dawn of the internent (but, to be fair, it is because of the internet that his story finally gained a following and some press).

reply to post by SquirrelNutz


Its not hard to believe that history will repeat itself, that Earth goes through cycles just as the Universe does. That is not what is hard to believe.

What is hard to believe is that 'future' can be predicted and that man knows what will happen in the future, down to a very date. That is what is unbelievable.

I think its much more wise to always be prepared for the unknown then to ever think you know absolutely. Dont only be prepared for 2012....be prepared for what has not yet come today, be prepared for tomorrow....and also, live like infinity 'has your back'.

The idea of a event and date involving things of Spiritual natures (ya know, the ascensions and raptures) can leave a person very depressed if the event does not occur.

So always, just be prepared.

From another discussion, but certainly applies here...

Originally posted by SquirrelNutz

Originally posted by Skippy1138
reply to post by Metaphysic

 

The Mayans never claimed 2012 was "the end of the world"- just the end of a cycle......

You know, we hear this all the time - and, it IS true - but, given the political, economic, and actual climate(s), what the hell do you 'just the end of a cycle' people think it all entails?!

The world will never 'end', anyway. But, it certainly does seem to 'cleanse' itself from time to time - and, that is just historical, tangible, and scientifically verifiable fact!

reply to post by SquirrelNutz


Actually the Mayans used both cyclic and linear calendars and the long count is linear. There is no cycle ending in 2012 according to the Mayans.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by SquirrelNutz

 

Actually the Mayans used both cyclic and linear calendars and the long count is linear. There is no cycle ending in 2012 according to the Mayans.

Not exactly correct: December 21, 2012 completes a "great cycle" of thirteen b'ak'tuns - that is a pretty significant timeframe (to them).

reply to post by SquirrelNutz


Traditionally speaking it isn't. This concept of a "Great Cycle" only occurs after the arrival of Spanish and the creation of the Popol Vuh. Not only is this the first mention of such a concept, it's the only mention. If you familiarize yourself in how the Long Count is constructed and learn about Distance Numbers it becomes quickly apparent that the Maya did not believe in such a cycle. In fact Coba Stela 1 has a date that extends back trillions of years with no mention of that time being broken up into cycles. While such calendars as the tzolkin were intended to run in cycles, the Long Count was created to continue on to infinite.

reply to post by Xcalibur254


Okay, so it wasn't important to them. Erase the last two words.

Is that sentence now a factual statement, or isn't it?
(i.e. December 21, 2012 will be the completion of a 5,126 year recognized period)

Originally posted by SquirrelNutz

Why is everyone so quick to dismiss that EARTH could be affected by outside forces just as all other stellar entities, especially considering that the evidence is there that we've been impacted BEFORE! Moreover, why is it so hard to come to grips with the fact that NOW may be one of those times? Jesus... Wake UP!

No one in their right mind, and for sure not any serious/hobby astronomer or *any* scientist would deny that.
I have no idea how you come up with the idea.

But it's a HUGE difference between "not denying" that something like that might happen and PANICKING as is the case in certain forums.

Planets and moons get bombarded with cosmic debris....a simple look to the moon will tell you this is the case. Earth was bombarded with debris/comets also...heck we even saw a comet (shoemaker/levi) breaking up and impacting Jupiter - LIVE on TV.

But seeing the age of the Earth (billions of years) - and the remote chance of such an impact...is like worrying about going out and whether a plane falls on my head.

While the "danger" is there, and thinking about long-term prevention of comet/asteroid impacts does indeed make sense, it's simply no URGENT issue as some conspiracy people want to make you believe.

HECK - yes it *could* be that a good sized asteroid COULD impact Earth and cause a catastrophe "soon" - but it could as well be that such an event might happen in several 1000 years..maybe in 100.000 years or maybe a million years? So what?

Besides...even taking the remote chance of such an event happening into account..i personally don't think that eg. an impact of a several hundreds meter object would be an "extinction event"...it would be a MAJOR CATASTROPHE, no question...but it would not cause a mass instinction and i think we Humans would survive it.

(Not as with the dinosaurs where a following climate change made them extinct...but we humans would adapt..even *if* such an impact would probably cause a LOT of casualities at first,depending where it would hit..floods etc..etc... but it would simply not hit and literally destroy Earth into pieces.)

reply to post by SquirrelNutz


That is what happens. A section of counting is over and yet the counting continues unabated the next day.

One of the things you notice with the long count is that every day is assigned a unique number. In a cycle different days are assigned the same number. In our calendar every day is assigned a unique date even though we reuse parts of the counting system just as we reuse the digits 0 to 9 in the units place, tens place, etc.

Totally agree with you OP. Problem is also that people believe that it could happen, but just not to them.

That day would be just a normal day for me, humans try to '"fit" things to make it make sense... maybe the mayans got bored of making calender....they probably thought "we are not going to live this long, i think ill end the calender for now and start up again in few years".. then the disease got them.

Not all religion dooming and glooming, In Hinduism, according to Kali Yuga,, earth still has about 429,000 years left before destruction!

I think imo, earth already started deteriorating, i say it started around early 1900s, probably will last another 200-300 years before natures engulfs and restarts.