Strange Relics from the Depths of the Earth, page 1
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Topic started on 19-12-2009 @ 08:14 PM by genius/idoit
Dr. Jochmans cites numerous accounts of human artifacts being found in earth strata, which according to the standard evolutionary time scale, predate human evolution. These accounts show human existence far far back into earth history, and prove evolution theory false.


In most of the academic and scientific world today, the interpretation of the history of the earth, of life, of man, and of human culture, is defined within the narrow boundaries of specific, prevailing theories. The geology of the earth, for example, is viewed almost exclusively in terms of uniformitarianism. This means that the present-existing processes of erosion and volcanism are thought to have been the only forces at work in the past. Because of the slowness of these processes of change, and the tremendous transformations observed in the earth's depths, the age of the earth is thus counted in billions of years - today, it is put between 4 1/2 and 5 billion years.


The point that will be brought out in this book is that there is evidence for man, and the products of human civilization, in the deep recesses of the earth. Herein are presented the case histories


But while the African finds are revolutionary, there have been other discoveries of human fossils greatly more important, but these have been deliberately neglected or denounced, because they are far older than man is "supposed" to be.


Over a hundred years ago, in the 1850's, gold miners began digging tunnels into the sides and top of Table Mountain, northwest of Needles, California. Gold was discovered, but along with it were bones of extinct mastodons, mammoths, bison, tapirs, horses, rhinos, hippos and camels - all dating from the Pliocene. In 1863, a physician from nearby Sonora, Dr. R. Snell, began to collect specimens from the excavations. In that year, with his bare hands, he loosened from among the fossils a stone disc that appeared to have been used for grinding. But Dr. Snell was not the first, or last, to unearth mysterious objects from the mountain gravel: In 1853, Oliver W. Stevens made affidavit that he removed a large stone bowl from the lowest level tunnel; in 1857, the Honorable Paul Hubbs, of Vallejo, dug up part of a human crania from inside the Valentine shaft; and in 1862, Mr. Llewellyn Pierce also signed affidavit that he had found a stone mortar 200 feet in from the mouth of the same shaft. The most dramatic find, however, was reserved for a Mr. Mattison, one of the owners of the mines. In February of 1866, Mattison unearthed from beneath a layer of basalt an object which - because of the encrustation's - he first thought was the petrified root of a tree, but on closer examination discovered was a complete human skull. The miner sent the skull to the office of the State Survey in June of the same year. Eventually, the skull came into the possession of Dr. L. Wyman, of Harvard College, who removed the encasing material around the cranium. Dr. Wyman, and an associate named Professor Whitney, identified the skull as very modern in type, but also noted that, "the fragments of bones and gravel and shells were so wedged into the cavities of the skull that there could be no mistake as to the character of the situation in which it is found." The stickler was, however, that this meant the skull, along with all the artifacts found, were 12 million years old.


the whole article

This is fascinating stuff I'm going to be reading for a while.Let me know what you think.


reply posted on 19-12-2009 @ 09:18 PM by genius/idoit
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there are several accounts describing that exact scenario in the link I provided you should check it out you it might bring back some memory.

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reply posted on 19-12-2009 @ 09:46 PM by Titen-Sxull
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Reminds me of the game Assassin's Creed 2,(spoiler warning) I just finished it, the plot deals with there being an older more advanced civilization before ours which helped get us started.

This was all fine and dandy until we get to the end of the writings where Creationism is officially listed as the only good explanation and aliens are thrown out.

So this researcher is prepared to assume all these obscure reports from miners and amateur fossil hunters (most of which are from the 1800s) are 100% fact and that their loosely done strata dating is accurate but throws out the possibility of aliens because of a lack of evidence

The researcher is prepared to throw out everything we know about evolution and geology but not prepared to open his mind to the possibility of aliens (but invisible Sky Beings causing world wide floods are apparently a better explanation )

The majority of reported artifacts/remains listed are either missing or never existed.

And how is the Creation-Flood story the best bet here? We're talking about fossilized sandal prints that are hundreds of millions of years old when most Creationists think the Earth is only a few thousand years old in and of itself. And even if they aren't advocating Young Earth creationism (it doesn't appear they are) they still have to account for how the Flood managed to scatter artifacts across so many strata or how the Flood killed off all those generations of humans all at once (or how the Earth managed to hold 500 million years worth of our messy and dangerous species).

They build up mystery and wonder and tell a good story recounting tales of OOPARTS only to spoil it with their preconceived bias toward Creationism...

I've always believed mankind and the Earth itself has some lost history, that we have forgotten memories from the 150,000 years before written language. But this is hardly evidence, much of it is outdated conjecture and is hollow when it's used for religious ends - how many times do those supposed Dino-Man cohabitation prints in Glen Rose, Texas have to be debunked before people give it a rest already?


reply posted on 19-12-2009 @ 10:32 PM by Lasheic


reply posted on 19-12-2009 @ 10:38 PM by OZtracized
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OK sat down and read (almost all) the link and it's awesome! At the risk of repeating myself, I love this stuff, I just wish the scientific community would stop pushing it aside because it doesn't fit the current paradigm.


reply posted on 19-12-2009 @ 10:47 PM by OZtracized
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So are you saying the whole article is a work of fiction?

I have seen many of those examples in books when I was much younger so at least some of that info is the product of research.

If you don't feel it's a complete lie, what do you think the explanation could be?


reply posted on 19-12-2009 @ 11:24 PM by kyred
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This site mentions this is the 4th world, of more to come.

www.welcomehome.org...

There's lots of sites popping up when I google hopi prophecy.


reply posted on 20-12-2009 @ 02:10 AM by randyvs
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This hardly disproves evolution

Nobody has to disprove evolution Einstien, it's a myth.


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