Rage Against The Machine's Morello praises chart race

Great...

Fantastic..

I bet we wont be hearing them play it live on top of the pops though.. not after what happened at BBC radio 5 this week

They have beaten the X factor song to be Christmas number 1 in UK!

RATM sold 500,000

Xfactor sold 450,000


Sweet result and the five live clip is second to none. I laughed so much!!!!!!


[edit on 20-12-2009 by Gregandgemma]

On the one hand this is really a great victory, maybe record companies will take notice and stop putting out this manufactured, utter, rubbish. On the other hand the record company for rage is the same as for the xfactor guy. So maybe in the end it's just at least a good example of what people can do if they actually stand up and do something!

Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
So maybe in the end it's just at least a good example of what people can do if they actually stand up and do something!

And that is a prime example..
Unfottunately, the opportunity to stand up and do something is not always available due to the way that many companies, corporations and governments work... how they twist and spin everything in order to get their way..

This started off with just two people using twitter and they started a mini revolution.. a war with no violence.. just a point being made..

A point that says we wont do what you tell us and we wont buy into your rubbish any longer..

this is not about Sony, it's the message in the track that counts and the fact it has raised thousands of pounds for a very wothy cause, Shelter. A charity for the homeless in London. i'm glad i did my bit.

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They seemed quite shocked that they swore on air after asking them not to. Guess the DJs didn't see the irony in that.

The power of the internet had to show itself in one way or form eventually. The populous are maybe starting to realise exaclty how much power that they hold through the inernet and social media. I love RATM and have them on my playlist while I'm working. But irrespective of that people felt they needed to make a stand. ..and stand they have.

But...will this have any fall out? Will rules be brought in in the UK to disqqualify any songs promoted heavily on social media sites? (My bet is a yes.) Yes, this time its sony thats the winnners,but what if next time its a total unknown with no record companies or big business ties? That then makes it a danger to the status quo, and we all know what happens when you rock the corporate boat to hard.


Wayne...

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What is X Factor? Is it the British "American Idol?"

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Yup, that's about right..

It's just another spin off of the types of "Stardom" program such as Britains got talent.

I'm glad they've had their crown knocked off.

Im prowd to say i bought the single,
even tho i own all there albums.
down with the x factor and the sheeple it produces.
there lyrics have alot of meaning all should listen to them or read them if you don't like the songs.
**** you i won't do what you tell me x factor fans useing those words to put the movement down, nobody made those people like me go out and buy killing in the name, we chose too.
rebel people, take the power back.

p.s I will be doing the same next year and its just gonna get bigger.

[edit on 21-12-2009 by slaine1978]

People who supported this need to get over themselves.
You can accuse the X Factor of dumbing down the music industry, but the fact is people chose whether or not to follow the program, whether or not to buy the single. It's called democracy. Live with it.
And exactly what has been achieved with this silly point scoring? Those who like to think of themselves as 'radical' followed the rest of the sheep (just sheep of a different colour) and downloaded a single that, left to it's own devices, probably wouldn't have had much airplay anyway.
Sony, the arch capitalist of the music industry, must be laughing it's socks off. Nice one...

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With the comments in this thread already it really seems you just don't get the point.

Th RATM single would never have got the air time it has received if it had not been for people buying the single. And it was the general public who got it to this position.. not RATM. The general public had a choice and their voice spoke loudest.

X-Factor tracks, and the like, are designed and aimed at an entire audience, a population, countries even. These types of 'new found stars' are created for a single purpose.

If you read some of the comments that RATM made about their single reaching number one then you might realise that they want new musicians to stand up and be heard by all...rather than have the same old 'shaped and moulded, ready made, factory produced' nonsense.

It is rumoured x-factor will no longer be producing coming up to Christmas, only a rumour though. Bookies are considering never taking bets on the number one spot during the holiday season neither.

Very significant protest movement though - probably the most powerful in recent times, and honestly shows the power of social activism. Many campaigns are inspired by this victory and considering similar actions on a variety of issues.

Originally posted by unicorn1
People who supported this need to get over themselves.
You can accuse the X Factor of dumbing down the music industry, but the fact is people chose whether or not to follow the program, whether or not to buy the single. It's called democracy. Live with it.

Yes it is democracy and the RATM track won out, which just shows that democracy works. So your point is rather failing in logic. People don't really choose anymore, they sit and consume. Marketing is so powerful that people don't look beyond it, they sit and vegetate. If that sounds condescending then fine, it is however the truth.

Originally posted by unicorn1
And exactly what has been achieved with this silly point scoring? Those who like to think of themselves as 'radical' followed the rest of the sheep (just sheep of a different colour) and downloaded a single that, left to it's own devices, probably wouldn't have had much airplay anyway.
Sony, the arch capitalist of the music industry, must be laughing it's socks off. Nice one...

Hang on i'm confused. Either we're all sheep or democracy won out. It seems that when you agree with the point it is democracy, but when you don't the supporters of the winner are sheep. RATM are now seen as an alternative band when the charts are ruled by manufactured bands and the people, voted, democratically to say they are sick of such bands.

Tons of music now has little originality and hopefully this will be a revival of bands getting through on their talent alone and not how they can be marketed.

Personally, I don't like either song and couldn't have cared less which one got to number 1 in the UK chart.

What I did find hilariously ironic though was that the whole premise of this campaign was this (as stated in the op):

It's only a small step, but for some, this is a big step forwards. A step that says;
" I wont do what you told me"!!!!!

Yet everyone who downloaded the Rage Against The Machine song did so essentially because someone started a campaign on Facebook telling people to do so.

I'm guessing too, that some people who downloaded RATM didn't actually like the song, but in fairness, a lot who bought the X Factor song probably didn't like that either.

I say, buy/download whatever song you LIKE!

wow. is that for real? i used to be huge fan long time ago. but i think there will immense resistance from X Factor brainwashed folk. i just went to other sites to check out what peoples are saying...they are saying it isnt music. predictable. i hope will be done with Simon Cowell`s ridiculous self-important remarks on his shows. dude, forgets that he`s judging some lowest pop sh*t. shows like his produce some of the most awful bands like Daughtry.

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no people bought the track because they wanted to, to stop the monopoly the x factor has been haveing over the last few years. they start x factor so it end's around christmas time in order to get the no.1 spot which meens big money as people need to buy presents....

why would anyone wany to buy a track which has nothing to do with christmas from the early 90s unless they wanted too? send a message people joined the group because they wanted too not coz it was popular msm crap

sleep now in the fire its a rage track



[edit on 21-12-2009 by slaine1978]

Originally posted by Eevee
Yet everyone who downloaded the Rage Against The Machine song did so essentially because someone started a campaign on Facebook telling people to do so.

Nope, someone presented a protest idea and people, fed up with xfactor and manufactured rubbish music decided to support that campaign. It's a very different thing then just doing what you're told. They made a concious choice to fix something they perceived as broken.

Originally posted by Eevee
I'm guessing too, that some people who downloaded RATM didn't actually like the song, but in fairness, a lot who bought the X Factor song probably didn't like that either.

I say, buy/download whatever song you LIKE!

Well the problem with that is it wouldn't work as a protest. If everyone split their vote then the protest would have been completely and utterly unseen. "Rage Against The Machine" is a very good band to download in protest simply because of the name. People are raging against the system, but in a peaceful manner

well they promised to do a huge free gig in the uk if they won,
and i will be going, been 1 of my favorite bands since i was about 15,
only as i grew older did i start to realy understand there lyrics,
me and my old school best m8 intend to go.
gonna be awsome..

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I was never the biggest RATM fan but i do like some of their stuff so if they start up a gig in the UK i might try and get there as well.

At the risk of sounding stupid "rock on!"