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reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:25 PM by Blender

Originally posted by Reddupo
How did the spiral get so big and stay so uniform and perfect?

YouTube Link

I imagine in space that perfection might make more sense but not in our atmosphere...

They are saying that the "failed rocket" was in the upper atmosphere, where there is no wind. It would have had to have been a cloudless night in order to see something take place in our upper atmosphere, but for some reason not a single star is visible in any of the footage, telling me that the night was not cloudless at all.

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:25 PM by IceDash

reply to post by nunya13

lol..video game arn't real.

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:26 PM by Jim Scott

reply to post by madness

The blue beam was not connecting to the ground. It was a trail behind the spiraling rocket. The perspective is off because it is a 2D photo. The rocket launched, went out of control and spiraled toward it's final point where the "wheel spiral" occurred. You can see the blue trail of it spiraling on it's way to the end of the trajectory, where the "wheel spiral" effect ended. The "black hole" at the end is the result of the centrifugal force jetting the remaining fuel away from the rocket.

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:26 PM by nunya13

Originally posted by Blender
Just look at the way that the spiral dissapears from the inside out in a matter of seconds. Ever seen that before? Nope. I can say you haven't, because it has never happened, because thats not how rocket trails behave. "failed" or not failed.

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If it's from the smoke plume and the smoke stops it's going to dissipate outwards starting from the center.

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:26 PM by ALLis0NE

Sorry people, it's a rocket. This has happened before in 2006, people thought it was a UFO then too.. it is a confirmed rocket.

Here is a video

YouTube Link

...go back to sleep now...

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reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:27 PM by RestingInPieces

Originally posted by Reddupo
How did the spiral get so big and stay so uniform and perfect?

YouTube Link

I imagine in space that perfection might make more sense but not in our atmosphere...

Because it was a ballistic missile with a range of 5,000 miles carrying thousands of pounds of fuel, and was over 100,000 up as it put on the show, and not a stupid toy?

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:28 PM by nunya13

reply to post by IceDash

I know that, but you know what my point was. It was the only footage I could find offhand of a rocket spiraling out of control. You're saying there NO WAY that could happen in the real world?

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:28 PM by Jim Scott

reply to post by Blender

Photography at night is different, requiring exposure time to show the stars. If there is a light present, the stars will be obscured by the bright light, and it will appear there are no stars. The same effect is noted on the Apollo photos when you look at the sky in space. No stars, or only the brightest stars, because of the bright illumination of the ground and astronauts.

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:29 PM by nunya13

reply to post by ALLis0NE

Star for you!! Good one.

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:30 PM by ressiv

perhaps it was a russian rocket...testing a new kind of engine proton or foton tech.....

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:30 PM by Blender

Originally posted by nunya13

Originally posted by Blender
Just look at the way that the spiral dissapears from the inside out in a matter of seconds. Ever seen that before? Nope. I can say you haven't, because it has never happened, because thats not how rocket trails behave. "failed" or not failed.

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If it's from the smoke plume and the smoke stops it's going to dissipate outwards starting from the center.

Oh really, so you are saying that the outermost ring does NOT dissipate, until the innermost ring does? It kind of just hangs there and waits? Come on man. The outermost ring should be the first to start dissipating, since it was the first to be laid.

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reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:30 PM by IceDash

reply to post by nunya13

I don't trust anything what they said, they always have "half-truth" everytime.

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:33 PM by Blender

Originally posted by Jim Scott
reply to post by Blender

Photography at night is different, requiring exposure time to show the stars. If there is a light present, the stars will be obscured by the bright light, and it will appear there are no stars. The same effect is noted on the Apollo photos when you look at the sky in space. No stars, or only the brightest stars, because of the bright illumination of the ground and astronauts.

I understand that a bright light would obscure lesser lights in the sky, but after the brightness of the event is gone, you can still see no stars. As far as photographing a star at night, take your camera, walk outside tonite and snap a picture of a star. Tell me if it shows up.

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:33 PM by Jim Scott

reply to post by ALLis0NE

Good find on the old 2006 video. That makes a strong case for the rocket. Next question, why are the Russians having a problem developing a rocket, when they are the rocket specialists? Is this a new kind of propulsion?

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:34 PM by Aggie Man

Originally posted by IceDash
reply to post by Aggie Man

really?! show us your "number of video" you just so happen to said.....

come on, show us EXACTLY like that vid from other vid without a shape photoshop joke, come on Debunky...

Usually I would tell you to go find it yourself; however, as I happen to be looking right now...here you go:

YouTube Link

This one is a computer simulation, but accurate nonetheless:

YouTube Link

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:36 PM by Phage

reply to post by Blender

The effluent is in motion away from the rocket. It is not hanging in space like smoke in the atmosphere. It moves radially from the point it originated. When the ejection of the material stops, the material that has already been ejected continues to move away.

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:37 PM by oshdra

Originally posted by nunya13
I know this is an odd video to post but I think it may help explain the spiral.

It's a clip from Halo3. Apparently, the gamer was wierded out that a rocket launch in the game went haywire. But you can see how a failed (haywire) rocket can form a perfect spiral.

YouTube Link

And I ask again: Where are the videas or photos showing a perspective from a rocket "side"?? How is that all witnesses were just behing the rocket so everybody looked at a spiral??

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:37 PM by nunya13

Originally posted by Blender

Oh really, so you are saying that the outermost right does NOT dissipate, until the innermost ring does? It kinds just waits? Come on man.

Good grief...

The outermost has already disappeared. The ring around the void WAS the innermost smoke that has dissipated outward.

If the smoke from the rocket suddenly stops, the remaining smoke is going to continue to move outward until it disappears. Whatever was on the outside before the smoke stops also keeps moving outward but eventually disappears and the inner smoke takes it's place.

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:39 PM by Phage

reply to post by Blender

Look at image #2 here:
www.altaposten.no...
That could be a star over the mountains.

Now look at image #8.
There were a few low clouds but the sky was quite clear. It was certainly not overcast. Maybe you can't see stars because it was early morning twilight.

reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 03:40 PM by ALLis0NE

reply to post by Jim Scott

Not all rockets are created equal.

Crap happens.

All the glowing plumes and stuff is normal.. sometimes they make rainbows.

Here is a website with some really good rocket launch pictures...

www.moonglow.net...

Here is a good one: