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Originally posted by passenger
OK…when I said “guns = no crime”, I meant that – ohhhhh wait I didn’t say that!!! It seems that you think that I said that. I don’t have to defend statements I never made but you do need to provide more basis for your inferences if you wish them to stand. If you can reasonably prove that I meant the aforesaid then I’ll be likely to admit it (or more truthfully dodge it). Otherwise, please refrain from such assertions.
What I have questioned is why some do equate guns = crime. My argument is that Switzerland refutes this conclusion. What I am saying if that this Swiss experiment indicates that guns do not = crime. Therefore, I am demanding a different answer. There has to be a different dynamic. What is it then? Until it is given the usual reflexive, ideological answers don’t make sense.
I can be told that 1+1=3 and not know the answer. But I can examine the data given (e.g count my thumbs) and say, “Well, I don’t know for sure what the answer is – but I know it ain’t 3. What I am saying is, that we have been told by those on the left that 1+1=3. Guns = crime. And we are just supposed to accept that without questioning?
Guns have nothing to do with defending yourself from your neighbours in Switzerland, in America that's what guns are for
Originally posted by Merigold
And that sums up everything that is wrong with "America". I don't mean, Americans, or even the geographical location, I mean the idea of "america" the values and morals associated with it.
In general in order to receive unemployment benefits a person must:
be a Swiss national or
hold a valid residence permit and
be resident in Switzerland, unemployed, able to work and have contributed to the unemployment scheme for at least 12 months within the last 24 months
It is essential to remain at the disposal of the employment office and be able to prove that work is being actively sought.
The amount that you are entitled to is calculated according to a reference salary based on the last six months of salary subject to contribution.
The beneficiary is usually entitled to 70 percent of the reference salary. If they have one or more children and the allowance falls below a predetermined rate the amount due can go up to 80 percent.
Benefits are calculated on the basis of a daily allowance paid over five days and will begin following five days of proven unemployment.
A maximum of 400 allowances can be paid over a two-year period. A person over 55 years is entitled to 520 allowances paid over a two-year period.
Over night the civil authorities had built raised sidewalks throught the city, streets had been cleared, train tracks fixed and it was business as usual.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by atlasastro
There's a whole world focused on the simple fact that 'crime is cool' and nothing short of massive carpet-bombing can remove that from society.