God, Gods and Half a God

reply to post by Parta


oh the tuat/duat/amduat=abzu.
abzu is in the underworld but isn't the underworld itself. it
connects the otherworld (underworld) to this world and otherworlds.
it's the gate of the gods, which is why gods are born from it--emerge
from it.
abzu is not underground "water", nor is it overground water.
consider that the e.abzu is rebuilt in "enmerkar and the lord of arrata"
and that this is synonymous with babilu (babel), which is "gate of the gods" or more precisely chaos gate of the gods. the nun. the void.
it's all the same thing. anyway, a slightly different topic.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Parta

 

oh the tuat/duat/amduat=abzu.
abzu is in the underworld but isn't the underworld itself. it
connects the otherworld (underworld) to this world and otherworlds.
it's the gate of the gods, which is why gods are born from it--emerge
from it.
abzu is not underground "water", nor is it overground water.
consider that the e.abzu is rebuilt in "enmerkar and the lord of arrata"
and that this is synonymous with babilu (babel), which is "gate of the gods" or more precisely chaos gate of the gods. the nun. the void.
it's all the same thing. anyway, a slightly different topic.

tuat abzu

the egyptian abzu was in the egyptian abzu which was in egyptian underworld just like in mesopotamia therefore tuat = kur nu-gise or aralli etc etc

reply to post by Parta


notice how they're talked about both positively and negatively? most likely because they connect to different places, either figuratively or literally.

this:

O thou Great One of the SEKHEMU

is an interesting statement. in one of the many versions of the legend of the destruction of mankind, RA sends out his EYE in the form of HATHOR and then SEKHMET. this seems like it's saying the eye of ra is hathor on one side/end and sekhmet on the other. like 2 gates with a tunnel between: hathor gate at one end, sekhmet gate on the other, and just like the great bull of heaven, they destroy planet(s), first like a giant vacuum cleaner, then like a giant faucet. i considered sekhmet was the name of the gate on earth and hathor the name of the other gate, not on earth. considering her headdress is a red disk, i considered the possibility that the red disk was mars and not the sun, afterall. that's getting into very heavy hypotheticals, of course.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Parta

 

notice how they're talked about both positively and negatively? most likely because they connect to different places, either figuratively or literally.

the tuat was a nice place as was kur nu-gise but both became nasty after a catastrophe.

Originally posted by undo
this:

O thou Great One of the SEKHEMU

is an interesting statement. in one of the many versions of the legend of the destruction of mankind, RA sends out his EYE in the form of HATHOR and then SEKHMET. this seems like it's saying the eye of ra is hathor on one side/end and sekhmet on the other. like 2 gates with a tunnel between: hathor gate at one end, sekhmet gate on the other, and just like the great bull of heaven, they destroy planet(s), first like a giant vacuum cleaner, then like a giant faucet. i considered sekhmet was the name of the gate on earth and hathor the name of the other gate, not on earth. considering her headdress is a red disk, i considered the possibility that the red disk was mars and not the sun, afterall. that's getting into very heavy hypotheticals, of course.

sounds sorta like...

"The holy migration across the heavens
The assembled Anunnaki
the gods of the apsu were assembled in the sacred places of old and new.

Ea, Ninki, Inanna and Utu,
Enlil beside Ninlil, Adad beside Ninhursag.
Mother Goddess, (unreadable) the wise Mammi
administered divine rights in the light of consecrated fires
while the womb goddess, Belet-ali was present.
The ordained fires, made pure with reeds, cedar and myrtle were burning in the appointed places.
Under the watchfulness, the stewardship of the men of renown, the ancient progenitors,
Umal’s ancient progenitors administered the ordained fires.

At three and two points (unreadable) did the (unreadable) wise men make an offering of flour.
After the circle ritual, Umal, his nations and tribes took refuge.
At three and two points, places of (unreadable) on the way through the heavens,
Umal, his nations and tribes washed their hands,
learned the rites and rituals in these places (unreadable) throughout the holy migration.

There in those places, Umal, the nations of the earth and the tribes
were made clean again.
In those places, Umal was made clean in a purification bath,
fully immersed, he did emerge clean.

As the young men of Dilmun (unreadable)
readied the new ship, the new ships, the planned vessels,
Inscribed by Ut napishtim at the direction of Enlil on behalf of Ea,
were made ready in those designated places.
At two and three points (unreadable)
the brave young men of Dilmun readied the vessels
for the (unreadable) journey through the heavens, the holy migration.
The brave young men of Dilmun administered the (unreadable)

The second (unreadable) next (unreadable), the place of Umal’s toil was prepared.
Abundance was bestowed on the land and in the seas
seed, cereals and fruit bearing trees were bestowed upon the land and fishes of all kind in the seas.
Under the firmament Umal shall (unreadable…unreadable…unreadable) not go.
The gods of the apsu, the assembled annunaki did decree:
To the heavens shall Umal look for his bread
and to the divine ordinances shall Umal find his justice.
No more shall Umal (unreadable) in the designated, the sacred places.
"

egyptian hieroglyphic dictionary
even has a cool zoom feature
tiny.cc...

the womb goddess, Belet-ali

well then. a new avenue for research. why only one though?
there were 7, remember?

Originally posted by undo

the womb goddess, Belet-ali

well then. a new avenue for research. why only one though?

there were 7, remember?

that piece might be a fabrication so don't go changing to try to please it automatically. it would be nice to see what became of poor u-mu-ul however. he seems to be the bird legged fellow.

Originally posted by undo
egyptian hieroglyphic dictionary
even has a cool zoom feature
tiny.cc...

Thanks for that! I just bookmarked it. Do you have any other links to other ancient translation texts?

[edit on 8-12-2009 by gazerstar]

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well there's my research site
tiny.cc...
there's sacred texts
www.sacred-texts.com...