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Former Shriner Ray Highsmith, arrested on child porn charges

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posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 04:52 PM
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A Shriner - known for his charitable work with children - is now accused of having a thousand graphic images and video of child porn.

Ray Highsmith is in federal custody, accused of downloading the illegal files off a website and saving them on a home computer.

An ear to ear grin topped with a red-fez. That is how most people at Khedive Shrine Temple would likely remember Ray Highsmith, their potentate, or leader, in 1995 and an active Shriner since.

Court documents uncovered by News Channel-3 reveal a different side to the 68-year-old, one that suggests that in his time away from helping burnt children as a Shriner he collected pornographic pictures of children at home.

www.wtkr.com...





This thread will be strictly on topic, if there is a thread about this article already then please show me a link. I havent seen one recently so I thought maybe it would be a good idea to bring it up for those who havent heard about it.

I am leaving no room for bashing on this thread, no room for attempt regarding disinformation.

So how much accusations and arrests do we need before we completely terminate the Shriner program? Doing more harm than good, Justin Timberlake is also a part of the 'cult for kids.'

www.metacafe.com...

Anything you guys can add?




posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 06:23 PM
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Heh, Ray Highsmith. More like r@ygold!



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by topsecretombomb
So how much accusations and arrests do we need before we completely terminate the Shriner program? Doing more harm than good, Justin Timberlake is also a part of the 'cult for kids.'


What does his prediliction for Kiddie-Porn have to do with his Shrine membership? Once due process runs its course and if he is found guilty he will receive what he deserves, hopefully a very long prison sentence as crimes against children are the worst kind of crime.



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
What does his prediliction for Kiddie-Porn have to do with his Shrine membership?



It's relevant because the Shriners' as an organization have a a network of 22 pediatric non-profit hospitals in America.



Shriner are distinguished by an enjoyment of life in the interest of philanthropy. With almost 500,000 members the organization has a buoyant philosophy which has been expressed as "Pleasure without intemperance, hospitality without rudeness and jollity without coarseness."


www.ben-ali-shriners.org...

If we can criticize the Catholic Church as an organization that covers up child abuse then surely we can criticize the Shriners, if this is proven to be true.

Findings 2008: Shriners' Corruption, Jesters' Prostitution

This is an interesting site that details the "Shriner Shame"

sandyfrost.newsvine.com...

A short excerpt:



• The Shriners used a suspended "for profit" corporation to organize and hold their annual convention.

• A secret group made up of invited Shriner leaders, The Royal Order of Jesters, was the subject of a complaint that accused them of holding drunken orgies.

• The fraternity contributed only to 0.5% or one half of one percent to the hospital's income.

• The Shriners used their tax-exempt status to avoid paying over $450,000 in HQ property taxes.

• The Thirteenth Circuit Court of Hillsborough County, Florida, filed a motion to dismiss after the Shriners failed to do anything to "prosecute" the defamation lawsuit filed against a whistleblowers and a tax analyst.

• Five girls gave statements to Brazilian federal police officers last year who are investigating "minor Indian and other girls living near the rivers in the region of the Municipality of Autazes/AM who became victims of sexual exploitation by North-American foreign tourists."

• These depositions described how the girls were, at the time of the alleged minor prostitution, aged 13, 14, 16. One of the 16 year olds stated that her 14 year old sister was also recruited.

• All the girls state they were lured onto the fishing boat by someone named "Richard."

• These depositions describe the crime known as "child sex tourism."

"Judge Resigns, Police Captain to Plead Guilty as FBI Investigates Royal Order of Jesters for Prostitution"

This article further covers the news that the FBI is investigating retired New York state Supreme Court justice Ron Tills, retired police captain John Trowbridge and Tills' former law clerk Michael Stebick for allegedly transporting a woman, for the purposes of prostitution, to an out-of-state meeting of the Royal Order of Jesters (ROJ). As a result, Judge Tills resigned. Stebick resigned from his position as Tills' law clerk. Trowbridge was scheduled to plead guilty the next day in federal court.




posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 02:11 AM
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If he's been tried and found guilty, it is highly likely that the Grand Lodge of his home state has already torn up his dues card. The fraternity does not like having felons as members.


Originally posted by topsecretombomb
This thread will be strictly on topic, if there is a thread about this article already then please show me a link. I havent seen one recently so I thought maybe it would be a good idea to bring it up for those who havent heard about it.

I am leaving no room for bashing on this thread, no room for attempt regarding disinformation.
And who are you to dictate what will and won't be said in a thread? I don't see a Mod label by your name...


So how much accusations and arrests do we need before we completely terminate the Shriner program? Doing more harm than good, Justin Timberlake is also a part of the 'cult for kids.'
What does Justin Timberlake have to do with child pornography? Why did you bring him up if you insist that this stay on-topic?



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:08 AM
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That is pretty amazing if all true.
The guy apparently has a big heart and likes to be helpful.
I am guessing his personal hobbies are not related to the Shriners organization.

Just goes to show that people are very complex creatures.

I wouldn't get too worked up over it. Maybe he could rest and relax in the Alps with Roman Polanski? I'm saying though, he'll get whatever is coming to him. You can safely join the Shriners when you're ready.



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by deessell
It's relevant because the Shriners' as an organization have a a network of 22 pediatric non-profit hospitals in America.


So if a doctor is a pedophile then all doctors, since they work in an enviornment where children are present, are the same? If a Democrat molests a child, or a school teacher, then are they all perverts as well? Painting everyone with a very broad brush does not really help prove your point.

If Ray Highsmith is convicted of the crimes he is accused of then all that shows is Ray Highsmith is a diseased pervert, not that there was any coverup or misdeads done by other members of the Shrine. This was readily apparent in the article where it seemed no one would say anything in his defense.




[edit on 28-11-2009 by AugustusMasonicus]



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 08:28 PM
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Key word -- former

One time this black guy killed a white guy, so...

One time this Christian raped a Muslim...

One time this priest fondled an altar boy...



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 08:33 PM
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I am leaving no room for bashing on this thread, no room for attempt regarding disinformation.

So how much accusations and arrests do we need before we completely terminate the Shriner program? Doing more harm than good, Justin Timberlake is also a part of the 'cult for kids.'



Oooh... oooh.... (raising hand)

Can I add to the thread?

1 - There are 350,000 Shriners.

2 - This is one dude who has been arrested, not convicted.

3 - In America we are presumed innocent until found guilty by a jury of our peers, not a bigoted jackhole on a conspiracy forum.

4 - The Shriners operate 22 hospitals that provide care to CHILDREN FOR FREE

5 - The Shriners endowment to fund the hospitals is over $6 billion, mostly due to men and women leaving their lifelong work and savings to the shrine.


What have you done for a child lately except bitch?



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:06 PM
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Good. I hope he never sees the outside of a prison again. He led a double life it seems. I doubt that they'll find anyone to defend this piece of crap. I don't care that he was a Shriner,anyone that does this to children deserve no mercy.


So how much accusations and arrests do we need before we completely terminate the Shriner program? Doing more harm than good


I disagree. We help thousands of children every year. I'm a former Shrine patient. What this person did didn't occur at the hospitals. He deserves extra scorn for breaking a trust with the kids he helped. No matter how many kids he helped, it could never counter the harm he has done. Even just viewing it perpetuates it. I hope this man rots in a cell until he dies.



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 07:02 PM
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So how much accusations and arrests do we need before we completely terminate the Shriner program?


Or Methodists? Source


A former Rice Lake pastor is in jail Tuesday night after pleading guilty to sexually abusing a teenager. Prosecutors say the attack happened more than 20 years ago.

Angel Toro pleaded guilty to four misdemeanor counts of forth degree sexual assault. He was originally charged with four counts of third degree sexual assault and two counts of exposing himself. Those are all felonies. A jury trial was also set for this month.

Tuesday his victim says he's just glad it's over.

"How long is he getting? Because I’ve done 21 to life."

Doug Guillen says he's waited all 21 years for this day; the day he saw the man who raped him sent to jail.

"I feel like a free man, like a totally free man and he's not," Guillen says.

According to the criminal complaint, in 1987 Toro, a pastor at First United Methodist Church in Rice Lake recruited 17-year-old Doug Guillen to help him fix a fence. That's when Guillen says Toro sexually assaulted him.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Or Baptists? Source


The former pastor of a Florida Baptist mega-church charged with sexually abusing 21 women and one man when they were children won't face his accusers in court. Bob Gray, 38-year-pastor of Trinity Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Fla., died Saturday, just days before his criminal trial was scheduled to start.

Gray, 81, had been scheduled to stand trial on six counts of capital sexual battery, with jury selection beginning Nov. 13. Gray entered a Jacksonville hospital Oct. 20 with an undisclosed medical condition. A judge delayed his trial pending a Dec. 12 status hearing. Last week media reported Gray had been taken off life support.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


More Baptists? Source


Six pedophile preachers still listed on national Southern Baptist website

Convicted clergy were publicly exposed last week by ABC 20/20 program

Yet they remain on Southern Baptist Convention's list of 'serving' ministers


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Mormons get into the act too Source


The Mormon Church covered up its knowledge of a High Priest's sexual
molestation of young boys for more than a decade according to a Portland,
Oregon lawsuit that the church paid $3,000,000.00 to settle. The charges were
brought by one of the priest's victims, Jeremiah Scott.
Today, Scott's mother made a statement describing the Mormon Church as
a, "sanctuary for pedophiles. The church is so concerned about its public
image," Sandra Scott charged, "that it hide the truth from me that it had
recycled a known pedophile into a position of authority in the church where he
had unlimited access to young children." Scott's legal team hailed the
settlement as, "the first big step for one victim in the long struggle to
expose the Mormon Church's epidemic pattern of providing a safe and secret
haven for child molesters."
Scott is one of 21 victims of High Priest Franklin Curtis who abused boys
in Portland, Oregon, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and
Sheridan, Wyoming. Curtis, who was convicted of molesting Scott, has since
died.
The church claimed throughout the litigation that it had a constitutional
right to "wipe the slate clean" of any member who had "repented" for his abuse
of children and had been forgiven by the church. "It is a policy that puts
out the welcome mat for pedophiles like Franklin Curtis," Mrs. Scott
commented.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



And of course Catholics? Source (The Irish story is fresh, but we are talking about court cases here, so this one story will stand in for the many others)


Broken Rites has helped to obtain justice for victims of a pedophile Catholic priest, Father John Sidney Denham. This priest finally pleaded guilty in July 2009 after getting away with his crimes for four decades.

He committed his crimes under the noses of his superiors and colleagues, while these people looked the other way.

The church recruited Denham as a trainee priest in the late 1960s and, according to statements made in court, some of his child-sex crimes were committed during his period of training.

Denham's superiors were told in the 1970s about what he was doing to children but the complaints were ignored. He was allowed to continue as a priest and was merely transferred to new districts, thereby putting more children at risk. Twenty years later, in the 1990s, a victim prompted the police to charge Denham but, with the help of church resources, Denham managed to beat the charges.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


How about the Republican Party? Source


* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.

* Brent K. Schepp Republican PedophileBrent K. Schepp who is a republican seeking election to the Kane County Board in November has been charged with sexually abusing two girls. He was named in a 26-count criminal indictment announced Friday by Kane County State’s Atty. John Barsanti. The charges are 14 counts of criminal sexual assault, 10 counts of criminal sexual abuse and two counts of unlawful delivery of alcohol to a minor. Prosecutors said Schepp knew his victims, who are now 15 and 16. The alleged abuse occurred last year between June and December. Bond is set at $75,000. Schepp faces a minimum sentence of 34 years in prison if convicted. Schepp is the Republican candidate in the race for an open County Board seat based in Aurora.Candidate indicted on child sex charges

* Strom Thurmond Republican PedophileRepublican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

(...this report contains dozens of more examples)


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


I'm running out of space here, but do I really need to go on?



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 01:25 AM
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Did you not see how there was a membership to a child-pornographic website that belonged to him????



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by JoshNorton
If he's been tried and found guilty, it is highly likely that the Grand Lodge of his home state has already torn up his dues card. The fraternity does not like having felons as members.


Originally posted by topsecretombomb
This thread will be strictly on topic, if there is a thread about this article already then please show me a link. I havent seen one recently so I thought maybe it would be a good idea to bring it up for those who havent heard about it.

I am leaving no room for bashing on this thread, no room for attempt regarding disinformation.
And who are you to dictate what will and won't be said in a thread? I don't see a Mod label by your name...


So how much accusations and arrests do we need before we completely terminate the Shriner program? Doing more harm than good, Justin Timberlake is also a part of the 'cult for kids.'
What does Justin Timberlake have to do with child pornography? Why did you bring him up if you insist that this stay on-topic?



The reason why Im bringing up Mr. Timberlake into the picture is because you never see Shriner commercials with pop-icons! Doesnt this look like some type of strategic propaganda to you guys? Choosing somebody who will make millions win favor of their company because hes already a well established respected person in our everyday community.

Its kinda like, using women to sell cars. Only were not selling anything, were trying to win favor and hide sinister horrors that dwell within an organiziation that has access to millions of children.



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by Cabaret Voltaire
That is pretty amazing if all true.
The guy apparently has a big heart and likes to be helpful.
I am guessing his personal hobbies are not related to the Shriners organization.

Just goes to show that people are very complex creatures.

I wouldn't get too worked up over it. Maybe he could rest and relax in the Alps with Roman Polanski? I'm saying though, he'll get whatever is coming to him. You can safely join the Shriners when you're ready.



You couldnt be anymore right Cabaret. His personal hobbies shouldnt be related to anything he puts his hands on! Wouldnt you agree there are more sickened individuals within these circles? And no, I dont think my membership will ever come to be.



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by topsecretombomb
Did you not see how there was a membership to a child-pornographic website that belonged to him????


Of course I saw that but thanks for bringing it up again and avoiding my questions. The membership belonged to him, not to the Shrine, so I do not see the relevance.

Address the questions other posters and myself raised about pedophiles and other societal groups and how that relates to your post.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 02:31 AM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by topsecretombomb
Did you not see how there was a membership to a child-pornographic website that belonged to him????


Of course I saw that but thanks for bringing it up again and avoiding my questions. The membership belonged to him, not to the Shrine, so I do not see the relevance.

Address the questions other posters and myself raised about pedophiles and other societal groups and how that relates to your post.












You dont see a connection here? Between the Shriners being connected to other Masonic branches who have had pro-claimed child raping wackjobs? Dont you think bad wolves herd up together, if there is a 'network' of pedophiliac 'Catholic Preachers' what makes you think there arent any in 'Organizations' such as the Shrine?

Im not saying one side doesnt have people with bad intent, but they go hand in hand. Together, and theres no denying it.


Do any of you think there is a possibility child-abusing Shriners/Masons could be tied to a Global Slave Trade?

Exerpt: "The first deposition, 61 pages, was provided by Adilson Garcia da Silva on Sunday, April 13, 2008. He describes how he became a fishing guide, his work history, how marijuana was allegedly obtained for the plaintiffs' clients then began describing how girls, from age 13 on up, were lured into prostitution from Brazilian Indian reservations for the fishing trips' clients. The girls, he said, were hired to provide 'programs' that consisted of 'oral sex, strip and dance contests."


www.freemasonrywatch.org...



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 07:25 AM
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You still have not answered my, and other posters, questions. Thank you for trying though.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by topsecretombomb


Exerpt: "The first deposition, 61 pages, was provided by Adilson Garcia da Silva on Sunday, April 13, 2008. He describes how he became a fishing guide, his work history, how marijuana was allegedly obtained for the plaintiffs' clients then began describing how girls, from age 13 on up, were lured into prostitution from Brazilian Indian reservations for the fishing trips' clients. The girls, he said, were hired to provide 'programs' that consisted of 'oral sex, strip and dance contests."



So now you are proposing banning fishing guides? Do you have a compensation package for honest fishing guides? Because my nephew would like to have a word with you.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 11:14 PM
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The poster makes his case for misdeeds. However, all institutions have people who take advantage of situations and abuse their trust and authority. Have you forgotten about Ray Stevens song regarding "The Shriners Convention".

Anyone who engages in or tolerates the sexual exploitation of children needs to be severely punished and organizations which fail to remove leaders or members convicted of these crimes should have their tax status revoked. Personally I believe the punishment should be the most serious one that can be given but that's a different topic and stops here. My best,



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