My Talk with the man in charge of the Air traffic control Center in Albuquerque, page 1
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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 10:55 AM by DaddyBare
reply to post by bigern


Maybe ... He's more you CYA type person than your disclosure type... Other than having a few stories about super speedy erratic blips I'm not sure proof is possible... from his office anyway


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 11:01 AM by DaddyBare
reply to post by aalien


Without putting Bob in a position I know he's not going to... I will say... if you wanted to look for proof in flight logs... the area I would focus my attention on... is the sector known as Black Rock 58...

And that is as far as I'm willing to go


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 02:03 PM by downunderET
reply to post by DaddyBare


I would assume that air traffic controllers world wide see blips with no ID.

Sightings happen worldwide every day.

Foget about the "sightings" and concentrate on the "COVER UP", thats where the problem is.


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 09:41 PM by downtown436
reply to post by DaddyBare


My family had a ranch Just north of Highway 380, over by carizozo. Some of our cows got burned from the fallout of the trinity test.

My family, and people that worked at our ranch started seeing some wild UFO activity just after WWII.

I have talked to a lot of people that have seen the lights, including my Dad and Grandfather.

I found what I believe to be the DUMB that they keep that stuff. There is a pretty clear pic on google earth.

To make this very brief and to the point, the Nazi's had anti-grav flying saucers. A lot of the scientists that worked on the Nazi rocket programs, also dealt with the flying saucers. Werner Von Braun was the leading authority on the subject.

During operation paperclip that technology was brought to White Sands Missile Range. The Roswell crash happened about 10 miles from our ranch. It was us playing with the Nazi saucers.

We took that technology and ran with it. They have things so far advanced that you literally would not believe it if you saw it. Oscura peak is a giant DUMB. It is the real "area 51", except it is actually called area 29.

Here are the coordinates for the Entrance to the DUMB in question.

33 25"17.85"N
106 25" 34.68" W
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