UFO, when the Army investigate

This photo show you an Unidentified flying object, taken by searcher. It is the hessdalen phenomena.

www.rhedae-magazine.com...

It is reported to happen "30" times a year, so you can see it by yourself : if you want to be more than a believer. But take care of you : because even the scientits lose their confidence.

The photo is from a french investigation :

"Ovni quand l'armée enquête" / "UFO, when the Army investigate"

You can find some video here ( sorry in french) : video.google.fr...#

To be more precise : searcher thinks it is just a unknow phenomenom.

But as reported in the investigation : there is sometimes a intelligence in it.

The searchers performed a test with a laser pointing on the phenomenom itself : then the pulsation of the phenomom doubled, if they stop the laser the pulsation became normal.

An other french investigation , with a lot of Army pilots :

"La grande Soiree Special Ovni" / "The great UFO Special Night"

And you can find research of "Jean pierre petit" in UFO technological studies in its website :

www.ufo-science.com...

www.jp-petit.org...

You can find scientific papers in english about the mhd technology.

Sorry if it has been posted. THis is my contribution , I have not posted a lot of stuff, that should be important, because i thought you knew it allready.

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reply to post by psychederic

Thanks for posting this good stuff! Star and flag!

I've heard of Will-o'-the-wisps before, but not this particular one, the "hessdalen phenomena".

I was fascinated to learn it has had a dedicated research station set up since 1998.

www.hessdalen.org...

They even have a webcam setup so you can watch the site live, here (It updates once per second): www.hessdalen.org... That's nice!

One possible cause of this is purported to be the infamous "swamp gas" that everyone laughs at now when they read a project bluebook explanation of a UFO, or more specifically:

The oxidation of phosphine and methane, produced by organic decay, can cause glowing light.

So it seems to me like maybe that "Project Hessdalen - Automatic Measurement Station (AMS)" should have some methane detectors setup to confirm if it has anything to do with methane but I don't see anything about that on their website.

If this is the cause, then it would seem to me that "a laser pointing on the phenomenom itself" as you put it could increase the oxidation rate of the methane if the laser is powerful enough. You may have seen powerful lasers burn through steel, but if the methane spontaneously oxidizes and produces light, then why couldn't a less powerful laser increase the oxidation? If that's what is happening then it's a sign of an increase in the chemical reaction of oxidation and not a sign of intelligence.

Another theory for the lights is possibly something like a piezoelectric effect from tectonic strain, but if that's the case, then shining a laser might not have any effect on the source of the light.

Here's another interesting photo of the phenomenon:

www.hessdalen.org...
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Photo taken by Kurt Anderssen in 1982. It is taken close to the main road in Hessdalen, towards a flashing light above the mountain Finnsåhøgda. Kurt used a camera standing on a tripod, equipped with a 2000 mm lens

Great photo. There are more here: www.hessdalen.org...

Is it alien or otherwise intelligently controlled? Probably not, but undoubtedly some lights like this have been the source of some UFO reports, though maybe not as many as project Bluebook claimed in their infamous "swamp gas" explanation category.

There really are some fascinating mysteries still left to be solved, apparently this may be one of them.

[edit on 24-11-2009 by Arbitrageur]

Yes but one important thing is the spectograph analysis : this is a metallic phenomenon.

I will try to translate other thing and find subtitles in english

[edit on 24-11-2009 by psychederic]

reply to post by psychederic

Thanks! Yes I was curious about the spectrographic analysis and I saw something to that effect on the image you posted but the spectrum stuff was so small I couldn't read it, there must be a larger image somewhere that's legible.

If there's a URL about the spectrographic analysis, just post that and we can paste in in google translate, or post the google translate link to it in English. You don't have to translate it unless it's in a form that Google Translate can't handle. But I would like to see that, thanks!

Optical spectrum analysis of the Hessdalen phenomenon

www.docstoc.com...



Report 3 -The Hessdalen Luminous Phenomena: Data Analysis
Massimo Teodorani, Ph.D.
Erling P. Strand, M Sc.E.E.
1998


In early 1984, a group of researchers from "Project Hessdalen" investigated a luminous phenomenon that was occurring in the area of Hessdalen, Norway. Various instruments were to monitor the phenomenon. In the present work, an attempt has been made to explain it, based on the data achieved during an investigation period. The following results are presented: (1) the luminous phenomenon occurs with a periodicity of about one day and is approximately coincident with some peculiar magnetic pulsations and, less frequently, with some components of radio emission; (2) magneto-metric data, radar data and some components of radiometric data show some slight correlation with daily solar activity. A hypothesis regarding the formation of solar-driven plasmoids which acquire self-governing EM and magnetic fields is further ventured and discussed. Technical requirements for future instrumental research are also presented.

Full Report: ufodatanet.org...

2) An other french investigation , with a lot of Army pilots :

"La grande Soiree Special Ovni" / "The great UFO Special Night"

THe link : www.dailymotion.com...

• Jean Pierre Petit, a former research director at CNRS, astrophysicist, author of "UFOs and American secret weapon"
• Gilles Pinon Admiral , Specialist.
• Christel Seval, an engineer with the Department of Defense, author of "Aliens, Contact and Impact"
• Patrice Mazery of journalist, investigated the subject in the world. (who did UFO, when the Army investigate)
Some guests have been confronted with almost UFO we deliver their testimony striking:


• Jack Krine, reserve colonel, a former fighter pilot in the Air Force, former leader of the patrol of France. translate.google.com...

September 23, 1975 at 23:00, during a nighttime training mission with another plane in the region of Cambrai, Krini made an observation repeated 3 times:

I was then captain, chief instructor Patrol confirmed the squadron "Seine". Around 22 h 30, we take off from Creil to 2 hunters for a training mission radar-gathering called "Mimosa Chest" . A relatively delicate exercise, simulating the interception of a night plane without identification. I fly on a Dassault Mirage 3-C and increases to 12 000 m altitude to the north, in a work area including Cambrai, Reims and Belgium. The night was very dark but with a starry extraordinary. I arrive at subsonic speed to 28 km behind the other Mirage, when suddenly I saw pass between him and me something very bright! It could be a coach or the fuselage of an airliner to fifteen meters long, oblong with large windows well lit from within. I asked my wingman: "You know something?" He replied not. I point the radar controller: "You have something between us?" "Non, négatif, on n'a rien..." "No, negative, nothing ..." We're moving away from 9 km for another turn on. I then announced the pilot of the other Mirage: "You have something in your 2 hours! You see?" The other captain replied: "Yeah ... I see ... It's funny, it's strange! It is over ..." Poof, it disappears again ... It was thus 4 presentations, and almost every time, this thing is between us and drags emerges. After 30 minutes of flight, we went on patrol close to Creil without saying anything. In any case, it was unlike anything I could identify.

Daniel Michau, test pilot of helicopters. Chief Brigadier visual flight and instrument flight.
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This story dates back to 1973, I was a young driver ALT of 3 ° GHL.
Aboard a AL II Army Air Corps, I made a flight from St Jacques Rennes and Caen. I went to Caen Carpiquet which stood at the time, the school PEFAT. This mission was quite nice for us. Il était sensiblement 11h00 du matin. It was significantly 11:00 AM.
Suddenly, Jean Luc said "look at Daniel, is what, oh # ..." I turned my head and I saw. We were overtaken by the right with a huge airship long as a ship without windows, no lights, no smoke, without any instrumental disturbances.

After the observation, which may have lasted a long second (but a second is a long time anyway), I contacted the VHF tower Caen indicating that we had to be lined by a kind of huge airship silent. The controller replied that they had seen an echo radar cross from north to south at high speed.

You say it was a UFO alien in the sense, I do not know, however, was dull gray, measured at the estimated at least 200 to 300m long, had a thick circumferential very important, did not noise did not Bouchin alive as an airship, was quite sharp in front and I think in the back.

3) And you can find research of "Jean pierre petit" in UFO technological studies in its website :

www.ufo-science.com...

www.jp-petit.org...

You can find scientific papers in english about the mhd technology.

Note also put online two recent important papers

* Shock wave annihilation by MHD action in supersonic flow.

www.mhdprospects.com...

* Shock-wave annihilation by MHD action in supersonic flows. Two-dimensional steady non-Isentropic analysis. Anti-shock "criterion, and shock-tube flow simulations for iosentropic

www.mhdprospects.com...

Acta Physica Polonica A (volume 115, n° 5, june 2009).
* MHD flow-control for hypersonic flight
(techniques for hypersonic aircraft to bypass MHD - pp. 1149-1151)

przyrbwn.icm.edu.pl...

* Wall confinement technique by magnetic gradient inversion. Accelerators combining induction effect and pulsed ionization. Applications.
(flying discs with MHD propulsion- pp. 1162-1163)

przyrbwn.icm.edu.pl...

* Non equilibrium plasma instabilities
(techniques for controlling the cold plasma instabilities in the presence of magnetic fields - pp. 1170-1172)

przyrbwn.icm.edu.pl...

What is mhd ? en.wikipedia.org...

And where it may be used ? A B2 Aurora ? Maybe : let see those video/images :

The theory : www.jp-petit.org...

THe application : www.jp-petit.org...

www.jp-petit.org...

www.jp-petit.org...

In video : www.dailymotion.com...

I will try to find video that match the reported ufo in my last posts.


Daniel MICHAU ufo's could possibly match this ufo :

"Declassified archives secret Soviet defense" or an object appears strangely similar to the one you speak at the show on Direct 8, it appears to minutes.
I think useful to you submitting it.
an extract in French:

www.youtube.com...

the original version (apparently) in English:

www.youtube.com...

Jack Krine ufo's could possibly match this ufo : img2.allposters.com...


Other french ufo important information :

The cometa report : en.wikipedia.org...

Geipan : en.wikipedia.org...

I hope you find this informations above top secret

If we accept the facts, there are ufo that may be from intelligent being.

We have done the a little of the five Ws, (en.wikipedia.org...)

What I find that event are happening everywhere, cross rule, like a scientist or the army will do to find information, or to take control on a map.

Then the next step is to find correlation between events.

Geolocation, speed, direction, type of ufo.

THIS MUST BE DONE, AND I HOPE MEMBERS OF ATS ( or even administrators) WILL LAUNCH THIS PROJECT.

There is one guy who got 10 thousand anonymous report from pilote. I don't remember who it is , but those information are necessary for the project.

Maybe we could find the truth, ( and protect ourself ? I will explain later my point of view).

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Is it alien or otherwise intelligently controlled? Probably not, but undoubtedly some lights like this have been the source of some UFO reports, though maybe not as many as project Bluebook claimed in their infamous "swamp gas" explanation category.

The ET-hypotheses are taken into account as well:

openseti.org...

A fundamental result which was ascertained directly on the field during two intensive scientific missions, is just that the Hessdalen phenomenology is characterized by two well-distinguished aspects: I) the very most part of luminous apparently immaterial orbs for which an external plasma appearance has been ascertained, but with highly anomalous characteristics both thermodynamically and morphologically, II) a slender but significant minority of objects which possess sharp characteristics of solidity. This double way in which the learnt phenomenology appears can be interpreted only in two alternative ways: or like an overlap of two phenomena with sharply different characteristics, or like two sharply different behaviours of the same phenomenon.

Since the first field-observation in Hessdalen (EMBLA 2000) it has been possible to learn that, together with a big majority of lights of the “plasmoid type”, structured objects were present too: at first a triangle of lights, then a low-luminosity egg-like translucid object [21]. During the second field-observation (EMBLA 2001) something similar to a flattened ellipsoid was recorded [23].

Further links:

articles.adsabs.harvard.edu...
inamidst.com...
inamidst.com...





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