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reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:14 PM by snusfanatic
reply to post by 12GaugePermissionSlip



Yea, no. That 8 year old can think modern industry and the super rich for the shoes on his feet and the tv in his home.



reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:35 PM by RobertAntonWeishaupt
reply to post by 12GaugePermissionSlip



Okay. This is an excellent example of why a revolution is so hard to get rolling. You are blinded by your perfectly understandable rage at the grotesque and widening divide between the haves and have-nots that you don't even know where to start.

Income equality (within reason) can be an excellent goal, but it is not a specific enough demand. It's not really actionable. Now if you have something that says a company's top paid employee's salary can not exceed 500% of the lowest paid employee's we could see some positive action as top executives shuffle things to meet such standards.

Even then, there would inevitably be loopholes that would maintain the status quo.


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:38 PM by RobertAntonWeishaupt
reply to post by snusfanatic



Okay Snus -

You attacked that idea. Where's yours? Where should the Great Correction begin?

Incidentally, it has been decades at best since the majority of the super-wealthy were actually Producing anything. The CEO of Keds can't make you a quality shoe. What do the upper eschelons of "Management" get paid for anyway?


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:39 PM by LiveForever8
reply to post by RobertAntonWeishaupt



Awareness. Awareness. Awareness.

I have said it a hundred times here on ATS, every time one of these threads pops up.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Peace.


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:42 PM by GW8UK
Originally posted by snusfanatic
reply to
post by 12GaugePermissionSlip



Yea, no. That 8 year old can think modern industry and the super rich for the shoes on his feet and the tv in his home.


Yehhhhhh.. Because the super-rich made his shoes and invented his T.V, yeah rite grow up.


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:49 PM by RobertAntonWeishaupt
Originally posted by LiveForever8
reply to
post by RobertAntonWeishaupt



Awareness. Awareness. Awareness.

I have said it a hundred times here on ATS, every time one of these threads pops up.


Peace.



Agreed that the most realistic thing is continued Awareness. The darkest forces in this world rely on secrecy to operate. Just having talk out there about what they are doing is a partial deterrent to their most diabolical schemes.

But this is a thread for those Revolutionaries who say the time for such talk is over! They lament the lack of focus to the Movement. I'm just trying to give them the chance to focus their energies through a fast and loose variation on the Socratic Method.

Enjoy the ride.



reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:54 PM by 12.21.12
reply to post by GW8UK



Actually yes I can.

I can not promote the use of illegal substances.

But I can speak freely about the legalization of marijuana all day long.


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:58 PM by anotherdad
reply to post by RobertAntonWeishaupt



I say we demand a fed audit, Trying to help get the thread back on track.
It is after all "our" Money they print, lend and devalue..


www.youtube.com...

[edit on 17-11-2009 by anotherdad]


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 01:59 PM by GW8UK
reply to post by 12.21.12



The UK seems to be moving towards legalization i think, the drug advisor was recently sacked for saying it was ok and less harmfull than alchohol but the tabloids got wind and now alot of people think its safe.

The money side of taxing it would be huge. 'Solve the rescession in seconds'


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 02:08 PM by RobertAntonWeishaupt
Originally posted by GW8UK
reply to
post by 12.21.12



The UK seems to be moving towards legalization i think, the drug advisor was recently sacked for saying it was ok and less harmfull than alchohol but the tabloids got wind and now alot of people think its safe.

The money side of taxing it would be huge. 'Solve the rescession in seconds'


There are a few things that can be legalized, regulated and heavily taxed. Ah but why would we want to turn billions in enforcement and incarceration expenses into billions of dollars in tax revenue?

My question is, with the moronic streak of faux-morality imposed by centuries of church sponsored neuroses in this country, would we ever be able to reach a real consensus on this these things?



reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 02:10 PM by RobertAntonWeishaupt
Originally posted by anotherdad
reply to
post by RobertAntonWeishaupt



I say we demand a fed audit, Trying to help get the thread back on track.
It is after all "our" Money they print, lend and devalue..


www.youtube.com...

[edit on 17-11-2009 by anotherdad]


An audit of the Federal Reserve would be awesome as far as throwing aside the curtain and paying some attention to Men behind it. I know Ron Paul's working on it in Congress.

[edit on 17-11-2009 by RobertAntonWeishaupt]


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 02:18 PM by Wertdagf
reply to post by RobertAntonWeishaupt



To keep life the way it is.. maybe planets are for the generation of various forms of sentient life... maybe heaven is in space. I needed the masses of suffering dieing people to see and understand concepts... as will everyother evolving lifeform across all infinity. Your reality tunnel was not only shaped by you but the world around you. You are not the only cookie .. but also the cookie cutter. It is the anger and sadness that shapes you, dont you think they should stay?

These ideas and possiblitys to the structure of reality will not dissapear from the jammed cogs in my vision of a perfect society.
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