ROFL, I found this thread sort of by accident. I'm still amazed that the video I created as a "social experiment" back in 2007 continues to fool
hoax believers, but then again, if you want to believe something badly enough, I suppose you will find a way.
If anyone has any questions about the video in the original post, I will do my best to answer them. Rest assured that it IS a fake.
Here are some videos debunking the debunkers and people from sites such as Bad Astronomy and Clavius, Myth Busters, etc - whom all are obvious NASA
sponsored to try keep the lie going. But here is the ultimate evidence, finally put together in a series of videos that will show without any doubt
that NASA faked a lot of footage, video, space programs, moon landings, and so on.
Since there are several hundred videos so far, I am still looking through them, but they are extremely well made with the guy whom have produced them
conducting various scientific experiments and research to back up his evidence against the debunkers.
I'll embed a couple of the ones that are already on the one page I linked to above:
Here is a direct link to the "MoonFaker Series", one of several series on the moon and space hoax and NASA faking presented in the original post's
youtube channel. The following link starts with first video in that series and will play each next video automatically:
And finally a nice couple photos showing the Mountain on Earth in Hawaii they used as the background in some of those hilarious "moon photos".
Notice below, the photo of Buzz Aldrin posing in front of the SAME mountain they jumped around and took photos of on "The Moon", with the same two
hills to the right of it and everything. The chances for finding and actually being around a mountain on the Moon that is completely identical, is as
said, ASTRONOMICAL at best. It is ludicrous to believe this is just "chance" and "coincidence", this is the gun with the most smoke in the whole NASA
SCAM MOON HOAX.
Buzz Aldrin and his Mountain with two hills in NASA training grounds in Hawaii:
(Scroll to right and left with bar below the image to see all)
On Moon, with SAME identical mountain and two hills:
(Scroll to right and left with bar below the image to see all)
And yes again, this is the same mountain that keeps reappearing in the most ridiculous photos allegedly taken on the Moon. The Moon photo is taken
slightly more from the left so that the two hills on right are seen more clearly but it is rather obvious the same 3 hills (or Mountain and 2 small
hills, whatever you like)..
So what they clearly have done here is to take a photo of that mountain and hills in the training ground here on Earth and just good old "cut and
paste" into the background of the "moon photos".
The ground area is also very similar as you can see but obviously the most striking and revealing here is The Hill.
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Regarding the White videos, and his claims, I can only comment on the few videos I have seen, and those seem legitimate to me and explains things in a
good and proper way including actual other experts of various related fields interviewed and taking part of some and not only himself.
Also, regardless of White, what do you think of the nice Hawaiian vacation photo and "moon mountain" of Buzz above?
I did read about it being a fake, the clip you refer to, but I heard it was a different angle than any of the official videos released by NASA, which
again makes one wonder where the person would get this clip from in the first place. It has also been said that he was forced to say it was a fake, or
that others pretended to be him and said it was a fake. Hard to know, but check this one, I am not saying this one is real because I do not know, but
if it is a proven fake I would love to know whom made it, how they made it, where, etc considering it is VERY professional and similar to the "real"
deal. Also read the report / analysis of the video linked below it:
Remember 2010: Space Odyssey - the Stanley Kubrick movie, made before they went to the Moon. It was pretty good too in terms of special effects and
such, for that time. In fact it has been speculated by some that Kubrick was hired and involved to help fake the whole project - and obviously with
the extra money and resources of NASA the quality of the fake moon landing would be increased and look more real.
Here is some info and material on that, note that it is 4 pages with links to the next pages on bottom of page: www.jayweidner.com...
Also, it does not really matter if the first "trash picker" video is fake, as the rest certainly is not since they are mostly verified authentic
NASA videos, public domain. Hope you checked all the other videos in this thread too - and remember that hilarious Hawaii / Moon mountain vacation
photo above with Buzz Aldrin & the NASA team.
Remember the nice Mythbusters episode too, they showed us how easy it is to actually fake the moon photos and make it look almost identical to the so
called "real thing". As far I am concerned their episode only strengthened the evidence on how moon photos by NASA were faked.
As you probably know, the LM was stationary at the same point the whole time and did not move or change position in any way. So then how is the above
possible, complete exact same background yet it is obvious to anyone with some photographical (or common sense) experience that the background view
and orientation should have changed some as well. Not to even mention the next hilarious two photos again of the LM, suddenly the mountains have grown
ENORMOUS all over the place around it!:
Also, I have not mentioned it yet, since it is one of the most common issues talked about by the "moon hoax believers", that is the shadows. It is
said that the Earth is SO incredible bright from up on the Moon that it cast really strong light thus making two light sources, the other being the
Sun, which "explains" the shadow issues (multiple shadows cast by one object, shadows going in different directions, etc). Then, well take a look at
this photo clearly showing the Earth not that bright at all in fact not much more bright than the Moon looks from Earth - I would go a stretch and say
it actually looks WEAKER than Moon looks from Earth:
And now this photo is allegedly the Sun seen from the Moon:
Now, it does NOT take a genius to understand that the extreme intensity of the "Sun" shown there, compared to the Earth above, would COMPLETELY
blend away ANY of the light and thus shadows coming from the Earth! At best, any shadows cast from Earth-light would be extremely weak and barely
noticeable at best. Try put on a candle in a dark room, and light up a flood light in a different part of the room, and see yourself how many shadows
So lets look at the shadows and if it seems plausible that they are the way they are in the photos if the above is true (Only light source is the Sun,
with slight Earth light at best):
And do you REALLY think a photo like the below would be possible without a rather strong extra light source? The sun is clearly in front of the camera
and the LM here - yes the BACK of the LM is COMPLETELY illuminated and clear while it should have been in complete SHADOW and darkness from that
STRONG sun light!
I know, the "lunar soil" is so INCREDIBLY shiny that it lights up the WHOLE LM - How CONVENIENT! What bullocks I say. And look at how the center of
the photo straight on the LM is in a direct SPOTLIGHT
The rover close to the camera has its shadow going directly downwards to the camera, but the astronaut a bit further up in the background has the
shadow goring straight to the LEFT! Clearly indicating a light source very close - exactly as I described in my post a bit back where I did some
experiments in my room with a light source right above me and had shadows going in different directions depending on where I was located in the room
and my placement towards the light. This is simply just impossible with only a natural sun as the light source, it can't be done, not on two objects
like this so close together.
The light is clearly seen straight above in the center as well, proving exactly what I am saying, the astronaut is further up and to the left of this
light source thus also making his shadow go to the left of the light, while the rover is closer to the camera having the light source in its back and
thus getting the shadow towards the camera. Only an artificial light (LAMP) will be able to do this!
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the only problem is that they did not take the photo with a "wide angle" lens or "fish eye" lens for that matter as many have suggested. Doing so
would also distort the rest of the image and not only the shadows by the way. Look up the Hasselblad cameras they used and you will see it is
impossible to get a photo like the above without artificial light. Heck - even the Manager of the space programs at Hasselblad, whom CREATED these
cameras specifically FOR the moon mission says he does not know how such photos could be taken without artificial light. That alone should speak for
As a note, the image above was taken from Magazine 134/B (Color) EVA-1, EVA-3, Frames 20376-20532 , and all photos were taken with the same camera and
lens and on the same film. The originals are here: www.hq.nasa.gov...
If your "wide angle" lens theory was correct, the same anomaly would show itself on all other photos taken on the same film as well, but it does
not. Here is an example that looks "correct" since the light comes from the left on all objects: www.hq.nasa.gov...
That photo was taken from the exact same camera and film as the one in question and makes it clear that no "wide angle" lens was used.
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