Is It Illegal For Everyone To Just Stay Home?, page 2
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reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 11:44 AM by redoubt
reply to post by HappilyEverAfter




The argument of "I cant afford to", I'll reply to with "can we afford not too"?


Allow me to address this singular point because it IS, undoubtedly, a prime motivating factor.

In fact, I, myself and my family, cannot afford to miss work days even over issues of great philosophical, humanitarian or conscientious import. The collective 'we' may be able to justify it but... I do not have that luxury.

If I don't pay the bills and stock the pantry, the 'we' is those in this house without a home or with empty stomachs. If they ask why the bills didn't get paid or that pantry stocked, telling them that we are under a bridge and hungry for a really good cause... is not going to mean a lot.

I sympathize and genuinely understand your message... but for a great many of us, just not doing the things of life is just not what we can do.

Best


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 03:32 PM by HappilyEverAfter
Well if I use the input so far, and apply it to a nation, I'd come to understand, that the status quo is still acceptable.
As far as "things suck" I was being general so I wouldnt have a long boring initial read, as far as needing to "pay the bills",
exactly my point, the fear of the system or abandonment of it holds the population in a blind bound slavery, we just dont "see the master" we think we're free, yet an act of freedom carried out in mass will generate negative response, and fear of what the "masters will do"?
I think if a nation united PRIOR to chaotic transition forced upon them they would have a better chance of controlling their outcome, being proactive and not so reactive like we've been.
I would rather a date for such an event be more like the 2nd week in January right before the state of the union address,
and just for clarity, i have 4 kids, i have 2 jobs, my wife has 2 jobs, i'm not heavily mortgaged or in debt, i've adjusted as employment has left my area several times, i dont collect welfare or unemployment, i'm just one person disgusted with the fear that has crippled us, and in just 1 generation turned so many of us into fearful waiting complaining statistics.
I'm not saying I have the answers at all, but I would want to believe that between ALL of us, OUR ACTUAL VOICES, not the paper voices not the false voices not the made for tv voices our representatives and pretend leaders spew, but our combined voices that are put into action PRIOR
would carry some weight and have an effect.
There will be calamity, there already is, and it will get worse,
I'm just proposing to take some control rather than be soooooo controlled.
There must also be another side to the equal sign SO
I'd also like to hear why there SHOULDNT be anything like this attempted and the benefits of sitting idle and doing nothing like this.
And I will do my best to more specific.



reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 06:31 PM by HappilyEverAfter
Originally posted by earthdude
Are we all that wealthy that we can just stop working?


Obviously the answers no, and I could speculate and spin the wheel of one thousand random answers as to why we're not all wealthy.
This is not about stopping shopping, or spending cash, pre loading the pantry, or living under a bridge, or causing harm,
THE CURRENT progress of the process will have all that happening soon enough.
This is about giving into the idea and actually participating in self governance.
There's nothing wrong with success and wealth, but there is simething wrong with the corrupted ways in which its obtained by some and stripped from others.
Sure it has always been a part of the world, I know I'll see that written back, but why are there soooo many replys across the boards in these forums with answers hinged on "giving in and giving up" or "what are they going to do to us next"? or TPTB '?
I never understood why hundreds or thousands of amassed people could allow a few armed people control them,
I'm beginning to understand that it starts BEFORE it ever gets to that point.
It starts like it is now,
complacent
dictionary.reference.com...
until one day everyones a post crisis prophet and shouts "oh i saw this coming" but by that time its
complaisant
www.merriam-webster.com...
and youre under a boot so far and hard that you'll do whatever you have to, to save your loved ones...
a job will be a luxury,
your rulers having a USE for you will be the subject of many prayers.
And I dont wish that on anyone.


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 06:57 PM by redoubt
reply to post by HappilyEverAfter



Just to be sure that I wasn't too old and decrepit to gain a full grasp of what is being suggested here, I shared this thread with my youngest daughter; a senior in college and very much aware of the ebbs and flows of current thought.

Her reply to me was that... "Idealism is a beautiful thing. So is a fairy tale. We can change the world by leading it in the right direction. We don't need to kidnap it and hold it for ransom."

*sigh* Out of the mouths of babes...






reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 07:41 PM by HappilyEverAfter
reply to post by redoubt



Thats fine, and her advise on leading is what?
Idealism starts with an idea, realism is right outside the door and a finger pointing at her future.
She along with you are happy with those prospects?
Comments are great, comments with an alternative path are even better,
RARE here but always better.

and make no mistake about my age as well, i'm able aggressive and long in tooth.
Your quote in signature is fitting, for application and action as well, I'm sure it was chosen for more than decoration.







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reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 07:52 PM by HappilyEverAfter
reply to post by Doc Holiday



Whats your thoughts Doc, I always read what you enter with a bit of interest and insight.


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 08:41 PM by Seiko
reply to post by Doc Holiday



I believe it was "freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose, nothing don't mean nothing honey if it ain't free".

I again affirm that not spending money is a better way to rattle cages then not earning money.

Don't "buy in" to their system and see if you get noticed.
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