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Originally posted by Szerablyn
Cool, I'm not against the Catholic Church completely. Actually I'm from a catholic background myself.. I was just stating that the first "rumours" about masons being satanic came from the Church at that time.
Originally posted by Moonsouljah
Where can you verify Ron Paul is a freemason?
Originally posted by Szerablyn
1) "Freemasonry wants to destoy America and its constitution, they're against democracy"
Well this one is about the funniest ones, considering that the people that founded America were most of them Freemasons, which believed in the liberty of opportunities and the help to others. Not counting the fact that masons were very important in the process of "reviving" democracy and bringing the modernity. Before this actions by important liberal men occured, the only one with the power to choose who rules was God through non other than the Pope itself, the age of the "divine right" which at least for me sounds much more creepier than any possible scenario of a 1984 Big Brother. The age of Enlightenment was indeed created in an indirect way by the masons, yet you blame them for the end of democracy.
We often hear the claim that our nation is a democracy. That wasn't the vision of the founders. They saw democracy as another form of tyranny. If we've become a democracy, I guarantee you that the founders would be deeply disappointed by our betrayal of their vision. The founders intended, and laid out the ground rules, for our nation to be a republic.
The word democracy appears nowhere in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution -- two most fundamental documents of our nation. Instead of a democracy, the Constitution's Article IV, Section 4, guarantees "to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government."
Moreover, let's ask ourselves: Does our pledge of allegiance to the flag say to "the democracy for which it stands," or does it say to "the republic for which it stands"? Or do we sing "The Battle Hymn of the Democracy" or "The Battle Hymn of the Republic"?
So what's the difference between republican and democratic forms of government? John Adams captured the essence of the difference when he said, "You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe." Nothing in our Constitution suggests that government is a grantor of rights. Instead, government is a protector of rights.
In recognition that it's Congress that poses the greatest threat to our liberties, the framers used negative phrases against Congress throughout the Constitution such as: shall not abridge, infringe, deny, disparage, and shall not be violated, nor be denied. In a republican form of government, there is rule of law. All citizens, including government officials, are accountable to the same laws. Government power is limited and decentralized through a system of checks and balances. Government intervenes in civil society to protect its citizens against force and fraud but does not intervene in the cases of peaceable, voluntary exchange.
Contrast the framers' vision of a republic with that of a democracy. In a democracy, the majority rules either directly or through its elected representatives. As in a monarchy, the law is whatever the government determines it to be. Laws do not represent reason. They represent power. The restraint is upon the individual instead of government. Unlike that envisioned under a republican form of government, rights are seen as privileges and permissions that are granted by government and can be rescinded by government.
The Producer is an experienced, award winning documentary filmmaker who, as a child, learned that her father was a member of the secretive cult of Freemasonry. She recalls many arguments between her parents over her father's secret meetings and the exclusion of women from the brotherhood. The Masonic ring that her father wore had been passed down from father to son over the generations. When she asked her father about the meaning of the letter "G" and the compass and square on his ring, she got no response. As an adult, she decided to investigate. That investigation grew into four years of intensive research into the identity and history of the diabolical globalists who she calls the "Ring Of Power". Their goal is one World Empire and one world ruler.
Originally posted by mrno1
What? Get out of here with this bull#! I assure you that the free masons that will ever be talked about on this site, You will never get the chance to even bow at their feet. The masons u know are the "Sheep", the "Cattle"! When was the last time we had an Asian President that was a member of one of the Asian secret societies? Now tell me when was the last time we had a Mason President? Try from George Washington to Barack Obama! Every Single One! I have more on this subject but i cant say anymore