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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
The fact that some people are even "joking" about such a topic is very unnerving. You can't be serious stating that we must kill 2/3 of the world's population just to preserve our planet. Two wrongs never make a right!
.... Leave the UN and kick them out.
A lot of great ideas to fix the economy, society, families, etc. But, the planet is still dying. What we need to do is force a minimalist lifestyle upon everyone, or else we, or our descendants, are doomed.
Maurice Strong and Radio for Peace International
The university's administrator, Canadian Maurice Strong, came in on a wave of influence based on the promise of Ted Turner's foundation to give a billion dollars to the UN. His connections to the Turner foundation, the World Bank, and to those environmental groups you hear criticized for allowing domination by big business, are just the tip of the iceberg.
Anyone searching "Maurice Strong" on the web encounters a very interesting array of entries. (To quote Lewis Carroll, the story becomes "Curious and curiouser") If we can believe even 10% of the story of his ascent to power and influence, an astonishing tale of subterfuge emerges, consistent with his attack on RFPI. Beyond the fig leaf of NGO's that he uses for cover, Strong's real alliances are with the enemies of the UN, which they are busily "reforming".
...Ontario Hydro, an industrial concern, headed by Earth Summit secretary general Maurice Strong, which is the biggest source of CO2 emissions in Canada. This corporation is currently selling nuclear reactors to Argentina and Chile.... www.hartford-hwp.com...
Food Safety’s Scorched Earth Policy
In the verdant farmland surrounding Monterey Bay, a national marine sanctuary and one of the world’s biological jewels, scorched-earth strategies are being imposed on hundreds of thousands of acres in the quest for an antiseptic field of greens. And the scheme is about to go national.
Invisible to a public that sees only the headlines of the latest food-safety scare – spinach, peppers and now cookie dough – ponds are being poisoned and bulldozed. Vegetation harboring pollinators and filtering storm runoff is being cleared. Fences and poison baits line wildlife corridors.
Dick Peixoto planted hedges of fennel and flowering cilantro around his organic vegetable fields in the Pajaro Valley near Watsonville to harbor beneficial insects, an alternative to pesticides.
He has since ripped out such plants in the name of food safety, because his big customers demand sterile buffers around his crops. No vegetation. No water. No wildlife of any kind.
“I was driving by a field where a squirrel fed off the end of the field, and so 30 feet in we had to destroy the crop,” he said. “On one field where a deer walked through, didn’t eat anything, just walked through and you could see the tracks, we had to take out 30 feet on each side of the tracks and annihilate the crop.”
Strong has always courted power - but not through any shabby election campaign.... Journalist Elaine Dewar, who interviewed Strong, described why he loved the UN. 'He could raise his own money from whomever he liked, appoint anyone he wanted, control the agenda,' wrote Dewar. 'He told me he had more unfettered power than a cabinet minister in Ottawa. He was right: He didn't have to run for re-election, yet he could profoundly affect lives.' Strong prefers power extracted from democracies, and kept from unenlightened voters." Source
It is therefore not surprising that another hat that Maurice Strong has worn is that of Treasurer, now Fellow, of Lindesfarne, New York, whose founder, William Thompson, conceived it as a medieval village into which the remnants of humanity might be herded as a feudalist "concentration camp," once genocidal eco-facist policies of the sort advocated by Maurice Strong had taken hold. And, for good measure, Strong is the president of the World Economic Forum, the Davos, Switzerland annual summit of the world's private bankers'.
This article appears in the January 29, 1999 issue of Executive Intelligence Review.
Maurice Strong Discusses His Pal
Al Gore's Dark Age `Cloak of Green'
by Scott Thompson
Originally posted by sadchild01
reply to post by felonius
all your ideas will end in death at the hands of NWO, or destruction of USA in the hands of Russia the great
[edit on 7-11-2009 by sadchild01]
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Only extremely gullible people will believe your line of thinking.
When, if ever, will people wake up? Mainstream media is doing an absolutely "great job" of deceiving people and will be the most responsible imho when the shtf. It is/was their job of looking out for peoples' best interest when governments "go south" but unfortuntely THEY ONLY SEE DOLLAR SIGNS in their eyes.
U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway. 1917 stated on the Congressional Record: In March, 1915,
the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interests, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world, and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press of the United States .... They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. The 25 papers were agreed upon; emissaries were sent to purchase the policy, national and international, of these papers; ... an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers [and to suppress] everything in opposition to the wishes of the interests -served. The Bankers Capture the Money Machine
“...During the 1920's and most of the 1930's Münzenberg played a leading role in the Comintern, Lenin's front for world-wide co-ordination of the left under Russian control. Under Münzenberg's direction, hundreds of groups, committees and publications cynically used and manipulated the devout radicals of the West....Most of this army of workers in what Münzenberg called 'Innocents' Clubs' had no idea they were working for Stalin. They were led to believe that they were advancing the cause of a sort of socialist humanism. The descendents of the 'Innocents' Clubs' are still hard at work in our universities and colleges. Every year a new cohort of impressionable students join groups like the Anti-Nazi League believing them to be benign opponents of oppression...”
I have concluded the USDA and its henchmen really do believe we are all stupid. I have come to this conclusion after months of reading the misinformation, the disinformation and the outright lies the USDA has put forward in an attempt to force the implementation of the National Animal Identification system and the companion land grabbing piece, Premises ID.
... Its possible Vilsack & Team USDA figured if congress didn't read the bills, we probably wouldn't either. Wrong!
As every state in the Union mounts a campaign to halt the implementation of any of these international agreements and Codex Alimentarius mandates, rules and regulations, USDA was forced to conduct a "listening" tour. Of course…..there was never any real intent to listen to anything. These are staged meetings where control of the crowd, content of the dialogue, is all determined before hand. At least that's what USDA team leaders thought would happen.
To make sure (they thought) they could limit the commenting, limit the statements and prevent most of the audience from participating at all the USDA employs the Delphi Technique. This is the technique of dividing and conquering. ……anyone attending was more than likely separated from those they came with and sent to a room with a corresponding color coding.
... Who ever might be in opposition to the conclusions, policies, or programs the facilitator is advancing is quickly singled out and actively shunned.
The biggest goal of the facilitator is for him/her to be perceived as part of the group. Once this is done, the facilitator asks for ideas and opinions, leading the group carefully to the pre-determined conclusions and leaving them believing it was all their idea. Only it didn't work this time. The farmers and ranchers, the cattlemen and horse people stood their ground. The only people shunned and shut out of the meetings were the facilitators. yupfarming.blogspot.com...
Toward the end of the afternoon breakout session, an 11 year old little girl (from an independent diversified farmstead in south central PA) determinedly held her hand high for a tiring three minutes, before being recognized by one of the facilitators. She stood up to say, after a minute or so of looking for and finding her shy little voice, "I will not participate in NAIS. I have my rights. I have the United States Constitution at my back." The room was silent for a moment, then applause surispinner.multiply.com...
Wendell Berry, also wearing a nice suit, said that the problem N.A.I.S. was supposed to solve was a problem caused by agricultural industrialists themselves, who now intended to use that problem as a pretext to further marginalize and limit the possibilities of small-scale agriculture. He said it was insulting to rural Kentuckians that USDA had hired policemen to be present at this listening session. He noted that USDA's fear of the people they were supposed to be serving made it clear what N.A.I.S. was all about. And he said that if NAIS were implemented, USDA was going to need far more than a couple of policemen to deal with the resistance and civil disobedience that would result. Naming Henry David Thoreau, Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. as honorable examples of the tradition of non-violent non-compliance, Berry said he would absolutely not comply with N.A.I.S. As an older person, he said he had little to lose by going to jail for the sake of the younger generations whose lives and livelihoods would be threatened or eliminated by such oppression, and who still did have much to lose.
full comment here
Ralph Packard, another CFA member farmer, said that like Wendell Berry, he too would prefer going to jail than obey a program as harmful, intrusive and unconstitutional as N.A.I.S. www.organicconsumers.org... Ralph Packard, agreed with Wendell Berry, that the government will need its guns if they make the program mandatory and require people to register their farms and animals cakeaustin.com...
R-CALF CEO Bill Bullard of Billings, Mont., was among those who blasted USDA for allowing cattle imports from Canada, despite its outbreak of mad cow disease; from Mexico, despite its problems with tuberculosis and fever ticks; and from Argentina, despite its problems with foot and mouth disease.
Bullard said the U.S. cattle industry has been shrinking since 1996, losing 19,000 ranchers a year.
"Our markets are broken. Our industry is broken," Bullard said. "It's happened because USDA has turned its back on us livestock producers."
Bullard drew a standing ovation.
Our planet IS dying, and countless plant and animal species are going extinct every year. (yeah, they keep finding new species that we didn't know about before, but that has nothing to do with the great die-off that's going down now other than they too are inline for extinction) And these species are not independent, and neither are you humans (I almost said humon again, ha). Everything is inter-connected.
Our planet IS dying, and countless plant and animal species are going extinct every year.
Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
What is very funny about the whole topic is China with their one child policy has a birth rate (BR) of 1.4, the USA has a BR of 1.3 and the EU nations as low as 0.8. It is the third world nations who have birth rates of 5 or so. WHY??? Because they need the kids as free labor on their low energy "sustainable Ag" Farms
Originally posted by crimvelvet
I am ashamed to admit I was taken in while I was in college. I was a member of Greenpeace and Sierra club and WWF. I can remember wishing other people had the same respect for the earth that I did. I even did my thesis on analysis methods for determining pollution in rivers!
Originally posted by crimvelvet
Once I was earning a living and had to deal with government red tape I started to wake up. Some how I always got stuck escorting the FDA, OSHA and EPA agents around what ever plant I happened to be working for. Nothing like dealing with idiotic officials and their ridiculous questions to bring home how much of your tax dollar is wasted. The real problems were never found and info turned in never got investigated.
Originally posted by crimvelvet
When I read in the Wall Street Journal (April 1994?) on the back section of course, that papers found in the Kremlin showed the KGB not only "funded but lead" our activist groups here in the USA, everything finally came together. You will note that little gem of information never made it into the mainstream news, and is nowhere to be found on the internet. The closest I have come is this.
We DO HAVE a pollution problem in many countries, including america! Lax "government" laws have allowed corporations to get away with murder. The industrial complex doesn't feel the urge to properly treat sewage and toxic waste before releasing it into the eco-system. Why do you think so many people are dying at a pre-mature age? I doubt it's just chemtrails and vacciness...
I remember for years my brother chose not to see the light of day, and it was his very employer who should him. He worked for the EPA in oil field site inspections. Consistently he was tasked with fining, and shutting down mom, and pop outfits, but consistently was ordered to leave the big boys like Exxon Mobil alone.