You have been nominated President ... Tell us your solution!

reply to post by wx4caster


Thank you for your time and input, wx4caster. You have a few great ideas in there, yet there are still numerous other issues that remain unresolved that still threaten us all.

Take the rain forests for example, can we survive without them? Maybe. Should we take a chance and find out? And, how long could we survive if the oceans died? Want to find out the hard way? And, if a virus can spread across land, one can probably spread through water ... so how long until human animal farming kills all the ocean life? How can we stop all this air pollution and CO2 and ozone destruction? And the consumption of limited resources, such as fresh water, for humans and their food animals as well as the production of their food/feed? And, the burgeoning population, when is enough enough, or are there too many already? Should we wait until there are 12 billion before deciding?

What would tomorrow be like if we awoke to find there were now just a few million of us instead of these billions? Would that solve any or all of these problems?

We mustn't take any chances here, Mr/Ms POTUS, we must insure success with a sure plan of action. Your solution must be decisive and totally effective, because failure could mean the death of us all.

I await your orders, Mr/Ms President,

Originally posted by ChemBreather
Great Job infoLerker, I've Faved it, gonna watch that stuff tomorrow.
I know 200% that Al Gore in his Banker Fraud's are stealing the World Popultions money, yet the Sheeple are feeling guilty for screwing up the planet...

No such thing as ' Hey you with that Mazda, you screwed up the planet' deal going down ,and even thoug carbon has been added by us in the past 150 years, I refues to belive it has any thing to do with the climate change, the co2 has as I have seen it been going up steadily the last 3000 years or so...

this is true. the climate change has been sensationalised in order to stir a panic so that people will back this money laundering scheme. however, it is still a resource being used, as well as there are other underlying issues that could be addresed. suck as deforestation and such. yes forests do grow back, but not nearly as quickly as wer are destroying them and the regrowth is not the same as the old growth...

First of all, if nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve, except for a few moments. During those moments I would appoint Chuck Norris as my Everything Czar and give him full, unfettered control of everything. Then I'd sit in the oval office and watch reruns of Bristol
County, interspersed with scenes from the D.I., starring Jack Webb, all the while Chuck Norris would roundhouse kick the crap out of every problem in the world and all would be good in a few days. Seriously, that's what I'd do. So don't nominate me unless you agree that my approach would be best.

The only thing I need to say is this.

The President of any country has little real power.

They already know everything that is discussed by the OP and they don't care.

If the PTB could, they would eliminate 3 billion people right now.

Why do you think they don't care about what is going on in Africa?

i would tell the american people that they need to be killed off. that the givornment would be poisoning the water and food supplies and adding dangerous viruses and metals to the vaccines.

i wouldn't lie to anyone. i would just get up on the podium and tell the country that we are killing you and have been for hundreds of years. then i would explain the origins of man and talk about aliens and ufos. different dimensions all existing at the same time will many different forms of life. and i would tell the people that death is not to be afraid of because i would tell the public about all the thousands of years of occult history. they wouldn't be scared and know why they need to die.

ah ah ah (clearing throat sound) does this thread sound like yours?

If you were president.....

Mods, maybe you should close this thread and refer others to the one from 11/4? Just saying, maybe not have 100's of the same threads over and over and over and over and over....................................................... ad infinitum.

Deny Ignorance.

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well in the case of the dissapearing forests, i see that this is truly a problem. i have noticed in my short time on earth (only 27 years) the difference in how many forests there are. i grew up on 280 acres in rural arkansas and the development there has resulted in fewer and fewer acres of forest for sure.

the result of this is a diminishing habitat for forest dwelling creatures. and while that seems to be a mundane issue, it results in weaker links in the eco chain and can lead to animals having to adjust by changing thier habitat, which can also lead to them moving to more urban and city areas. this causes the creatures to become pests to us "humons" and can result in further persecution and depopulation of that species. this must also be true for ocean farming and terraforming and so on. we must face the fact that as we continue to increase in population, the same old necessities continue to grow in demand, and they simply must be met. we cannot increase farm output unless we increase farm land (well... there is hormones, but that is another issue...) but we cannot increase farmland without removing trees. we cannot force ocean life to breed more (well there is genetics, but there are moral and unseen health issues that could possibly arise).

logging and fishing are behaviors that are nearly as old as civilization. it has become perverse as we create much more efficient ways to fish and log. the rapidity with which we carve the land is increasing by the day. the demand increases as the population does...

so what are some possible solutions?

first we could find new ways to produce the things that wood is used for. we know that it is used for lumber and paper (and toothpicks, god i would die without toothpicks...). it is also used for heat in some more rural areas, though most of those families only take the dead trees, and it is rarely an abuse of resources situation. some viable options for this are: hemp, plastics, and quick growth tree farming.

we could reduce the amount of paper needed by creating a re-usable envelope/mail packaging system. electronic documents, etc; this is an easy fix for the amount of paper required, and i am happy to see that we are already trending that way as a nation.

when it comes to stripping the rainforest, we really dont have much say. that is not our soil to say what happens. we do need to get the UN off thier buts and threaten sanctions against countries that allow stripping of the rain forest (haven't these people seen fern gully for chrissakes??) we should encourage these countries to re-plant the forest, and we should do so as an international community.

ocean farming is a tricky tinker because it involves several nations. enforcing the laws of the high seas also requires the consumption of resources and we have now encountered a catch-22. we can make it illegal all we want to but there will still be ways to either get around the law or break it in secret. this should not be an excuse for apathy however, as we should dedicate an appropriate amount of effort to produce a meaningful solution.

one of those solutions could be to develop an electric powered boat, or something of the like to make it cheaper to navigate open waters. we could develope a more sophisticated ship tracking system, and dedicate an appropriate amount of resources to random cargo checks and port inspections. we do this to a degree, but it is pointless to use resources and monies to act upon a solution knowing that we are not producing a communicable result. escpecially when we are only doing so to say we tried. efficiency is the key.

Legalize Cannabis. Curb Green House and Save the world. Seeds could feed the hungry. Even fabrics and gas can be made from it... see the world go green and free... imo



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That would go a long way to change peoples attitudes, wouldn't it. Would raise a lot of revenue to begin fixing some of these problems too. I bet you could pay for health care with that. Of course, that stuff can hypercharge a persons libido, so that idea could come back and bite us on the butt too. Hey, here's an idea ... free smoke for all those that volunteer to have themselves spaded/neutered (lol). Sign me up! Anyhow, no more talk on that, the CIA operative that run this place don't like us talking about that stuff.

[edit on 6-11-2009 by Divinorumus]

First of all just being Prez is not enough.
I would have to be total undisputed Dictator.
Drastic situations call for drastic solutions.

All items could not be acted upon all at once..there would be some adjustments in many areas. We could start with the removal of Poisons from our food.
Europe would have to do the same and there could be some collaberation there.

In which case.. to save the Planet..starting with MY country; the USA.
I would halt all immigration.
Deport all who arrived in the last 5 years, maybe more depending on whether they are worth keeping; what they are contributing to the General Welfare of the Country.
Deport any and all trouble makers, possibly just execute them.
Put the Military on the borders and shoot to kill any illegal crossers.
Likewise for water/ocean front borders.

Call for manditory sterilization to stop any further multiplication of the humans species until it is reduced to a comfortable size. The US should have no more than 200 million- preferably 150 million.
Riots would be quelled Chinese style.

All those Bankers etc who got rich at the expense of their investors would have their assets seized and apportioned to those who lost in the recent debacle. They would be reduced to living like the ordinary middle class American. Complain too much--execute them.

All elected officials, past and present, now living like Royals with lifetime full pay pensions would likewise have assets seized. No more pension. They get the Same Social Security check and Medicare that the rest of us get. Imagine the tax money that would be saved. They fuss and threaten too much - execute them.

I might have them all investigated and all those who voted for laws that harmed the Amercan People or the Country would be executed. Widows of course would get the same SS check that we all get.

All poisons would be removed from food, food crops & food animals.
Herbicide spraying of lawns would be prohibited.
Manufacure of most toxic chemicals would cease.
Geneticly Modified crops would be destroyed and all such seed burned.
CEOs of Companies that did not immediately comply would be executed.

Exporting most food would cease, except for actual Trade with other countries for their food crops; Machinery or technology would have to be reviewed case by case and ony sold if it was of benefit to us.

All foreign aide both money and goods would cease.

Hemp would become the new crop of necessity.
This easy care multi-use plant would become our new Icon instead of the
Eage.
Industry would be reinstated.
We would make our own electronics.

With no form of aide..most 3rd world countries being on their own to survive would be a self regulating population control mechanism.

Any country wanting war would be sorry they asked for it.
We would do a Hiroshima/Dresden on them from border to border.

If the rest of the world falls into chaotic savagry without us..so be it.
Our mistake was thinking we could civilize ever them.
Too bad we didn't leave China in the 10th Century. They were taking care of themselves.

I would call a committee and immediately discuss the available options. That is the only thing I could think of doing because

A. - The American People must have been drunk when they elected me and

B. - A situation that will determine the lives of millions of people necessarily requires a better brain than mine (and lots of them!).

[edit on Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:47:38 -0600 by MemoryShock]

So, there is nobody with a (better) fool proof plan to save the planet from destruction at the hands of man than what the PTB has come up with?

I would nuke everyother country thus reducing carbon emissions by reducing the population. Then after the radioactivity settled in a few years, I would go ravage all of the resources from all the countrie I just conquered. I call it leading Michael Corleone style. Kill all your enemies to make the family stronger.

Before you warn me, this is a joke and I really wouldn't kill off most of the planet.

Me as prez. hmmm. thats been a nasty dream of mine for a long while.


here we go.

1. Make McCarthy proud. Investigations into treasonous acts by officials and by the end of the day, they would be against the wall or exiled. Depends on my mood that day.

2. Fed is abolished and we are on a gold, silver, petrol or combination backed currency.

3. Borders will be militarised. If you cross illegally, you WILL be shot. period. If you were given amnesty after illegal entry in the last 25 years, you leave. Period.

4. Military would be pulled back to European countries and friendly Eastern Blok to consolidate. Missle defence will be initiated.

5. All business overseas will be taxed to death until all US manufacturing is done HERE!

6. IRS abolished. A 1% flat tax ACROSS THE BOARD. NO LOOPHOLES!

7. County and State Militias will be instituted. You will bring your weapon of choice and be trained accordingly. If you are from 12 to unable to move, you will take part. (religious exemptions will allow for support duty). One weekend a month and 6 weeks a year for training. Military, Police, Firefighters will recieve the pay due to them. Sports and Movie stars can recieve the pay from the Services for a while.

8. Islam will be prohibited from practice. You may leave and return to your chosen country of your faith. Mosques will be used as slaughter houses for pigs. (kidding). They will be leveled.

9. Communists and Socialists of any stripe will be exiled or given hard labor.

10. The US constitution will return to being the law of the land. It will be read literally. States will all be given sovereign status. Any articles or amendments after mid 1800's will be stricken. Womens rights and such will stand. Political correctness will be a capital crime punishable by 25 years in solitary confinement listening to Miley Cyrus albums, watching silver spoons reruns, and eating luke warm tofu.

11. We will not engage in any foreign wars that do not involve European allies or our concerns directly.

12. We will fund a new science system (without any trouble from oil companies) to find alt. energy sources. Zero Point or near will be given priority.

13. Parents (especially mothers) will stay home with their babies to age five. If possible, to age ten.

14. If N. Korea or anyone gives us the slightest threat they will glow. We will not be intimidated. No greater friend, no deadlier enemy!

Thats a good start. I aint finished yet. Need some more time.

ok. more.

15. No more corporate farms. Honor will be restored to family farms. Natural farming will be promoted. Subsides and abatements until things start to roll again.

16. Predatory capitalism will be abolished (do you hear me Walmart?). Big boxes will be eliminated in cities of less than 20k.

17. Abatements for all small businesses for the first 20 years of my reign (oops.) that is they will have 20 year abatements.

18. Alt. medicine will be encouraged.

19. True conservation of natural areas will be enacted. hunting will be allowed on national parks (during off season for safety unless a large area can be cordoned off).

20. GERMAN WILL BE THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE!!!! Seriously, 3-4 languages should be available in all middle and high schools.

It will be a glorious 4th Reich! America will be restored to her former glory. We will become a social, economic, artistic model for the world!
America Uber Alles!

[edit on 7-11-2009 by felonius]

Let the world know. Put all the facts right out in the open. Call all creative minds to come up with viable solutions. Let the people know no idea will be thought of as too out there.

I'm no scientific whiz, but some sort of carbon scrubbers for the air would be needed. We would need to find a way to pull out synthetic chemicals out of the air, water, and soil. No clue here, but there's seven billion of us (roughly) we could find a way.

Lobbyists must be dismissed. We can't (continue) to let corporations muck up the environment. Screw the left-right paradigm, this effects us all.

Keep it simple. Keep it sane. Take out ALL artificial chemicals. NO genetically modified foods, or organisms, PERIOD.

...that's about all I got. I think if the information was open for everyone to see, without bias, without an agenda, we could get through this.

Also note, I'm not really suggesting this as a "what if" scenario. This is a reality to me of some sorts.

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continue like Obama , try to instigate civil war in USA

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all your ideas will end in death at the hands of NWO, or destruction of USA in the hands of Russia the great

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Originally posted by HotSauce
I would nuke everyother country thus reducing carbon emissions by reducing the population.

As tempting and appealing as that idea initially appears to be, doing that would simply make too much of a mess, cause too much collateral damage, and I doubt you would live long enough to see all that radioactivity decay into something harmless. That stuff will be blowing around the planet for eons. And, you would be blowing up all kinds of stuff that the survivors could make use of after the great population reduction effort has taken its toll. No, a virus would probably be better. A bunch of them.

It's quite apparent to us all that humanity is destroying the planet, and that is something that MUST be stopped, right? But how? Can nobody come up with a better plan than a plague? Is there nobody smart enough or gutsy enough to save the planet so that at least a small percentage of humanity can survive and continue?

I can think of a couple alternatives to a plague, but I doubt everyone would go along with that. It would involve everyone living a minimal lifestyle, and a nature friendly one at that. To save the whole of humanity as it exists today, would you be willing to give up all these modern conveniences, such as automobiles, appliances, sprawling estates in the burbs, capitalism, rampant consumptionism, fossil fuels, mining for mineral, meat (a.k.a. death) as food, etc. etc. etc.? Or would you be willing to participate in a raffle that decides who should be evicted from the planet and who gets to stay? Or should we have planet wide blood bath and the strongest will be the ones that will inherit the Earth? Have any better ideas?

This is a REAL issue that confronts humanity at this time, and apparently nobody is willing to take it seriously, and that could result .. no, that WILL RESULT in the eventual collapse of our entire ecosystem, and that will kill us ALL. So, is THAT what everyone wants, all life upon Earth to become extinct instead? It's happening as we speak, countless species are going bye bye every year. Nobody willing to put a stop to that and save the planet?

Strong military, FEMA, police, fire fighters, schools, provide for elderly, strong U.S. dollar via no national debt, laws and regulations to protect Americans.

Anything past that is just communism. Let the free market take care of the rest like it has for the last 250 years.

The fact that some people are even "joking" about such a topic is very unnerving. You can't be serious stating that we must kill 2/3 of the world's population just to preserve our planet. Two wrongs never make a right!

Bluntely stated this is classical NWO brainwashing propaganda so we can start accepting people dieing of unnatural deaths without even questioning anything. Their concept is so unethically evil that it defies belief and the majority of sheeple will never know what hit them.

If we truely have an over-population problem(very unlikely) this would have been addressed by governments a long time ago and steps would have been taken to remedy the crisis. Instead for the most part, we have been hearing fringe scientists going on tv stating their misinformed opinions on less-than-truthful documentaries.