reply to post by Snarf
Far be it from me to deny that there are religious zealots every where. Christian, Muslim, Jewish, etc...each religion has their own sector of
robot-minded idiots who seek to tell the rest of the world how to live their lives else go to hell.
Agreed, sounds like most if not all of the religiously minded folks I have come across.
But i see this very same thing from snot-nosed Atheists as well.
Snot-nosed? Hmm... Only when I have a cold.
Touting intellectual superiority...wearing their IQ on their sleeve...trying to bully around people who believe in God.
It's not so much bullying them for believing in God, but more of correcting them where they are wrong when arguing against the science of thing's.
Especially when they bring science in as proof of their personal deity of choice. It's not our fault if religious folks can't bother to learn their
science and use it faultily.
I mean seriously - why is it so crucial to your mental stability that you must go shout it from the mountains and throw it in the faces of
anyone who has religion?
By that logic, let's bash all the teachers who give stupid kids bad grades for not learning the material.
Because 10 years ago, someone did it to you?
I'm not sure where you draw that conclusion, can you prove it?
Don't you realize that by the standards of the philosophy you choose to follow, you are defeating your own cause?
So, by telling people where they are wrong in their usage of science is defeating the science itself? I see so many holes with that statement; And yet
you wonder why we seem more intelligent.
(yes, i believe in God, just in a slightly different way) and my Beliefs do not force me to require proof of existence in order to believe and
be happy. I have faith.
It doesn't force you to require proof because you know there is no proof, hence your requirement for faith.
Your belief structure, however, does. You require proof in order to believe something to be true. But with a complete absence of proof, you
believe that God does not exist, and you go shouting it from the mountains. All without a single shred of proof.
Yes, science is about evidence and proof and without such much of what we know today wouldn't be known at all. Without evidence and proof being a
requirement we can just run around and believe whatever the heck we want and call it a valid logical belief, thankfully that idea is just absurd. We
also can certainly disprove all man made concepts of deity by tracing back through recorded history and find where those concepts originally came
from. For instance, your concept of a monotheistic entity comes originally from the biblical God as there is no other 'one God' system of belief
like it in the world to have originated from. Seeing as how you admit to changing your personal belief from the original belief we can readily
disprove it as you also admit to have no evidence for this new concept of the original concept.
Belief in something without proof is called faith.
Which is faulty, we don't still believe in rain God's after learning about the water cycle.
So i guess Atheists have faith too, after all?
I can't speak for all atheists, but as for myself I don't readily discount the possibility of a God like entity or fifty-nine of them, I only
discount the possibility of any entity being the one invented by error prone humans.
And in closing, i don't align myself with any official religion of today. I believe in God, i believe in Christ, but i don't call myself a
Christian. I don't attend church, and i think televangelists are the devil in disguise.
By definition, you are a Christian. A Christian is anyone who accepts Jesus as the Messiah.
But i don't know if you'll go to hell for not "believing". I think as long as you're a good person, you're fine. Far be it from an
Atheist to allow me to think that way and leave it at that, however.
If we look at the original concept of monotheism, there is no hell.
So Christians and Atheists are a lot alike.
I disagree, they have faith in their deity and Messiah without evidence of either, whereas we can systematically show that neither are real.
Modern Christians (and Jews, and Muslims..etc) will tell you that you're going to hell for being queer.
Yes, it's sad that religious thought has and does bring about the worst in people. Sort of like your snot-nosed comment towards atheists.
And Modern Atheists will tell you that you're a knuckle dragging retard for believe in God.
No atheist is stopping a religious person from learning more about the universe in which they exist.
Neither side of the coin, in this case, has a damn clue what is really going on.
Agreed; Yet science is certainly open to the possibility of a creator, science just doesn't inherently put faith in one as science is about evidence.
Without evidence of a creator there is no reason for science to subscribe to the idea of one. Religious folks erroneously think science is inherently
against all thing's supernatural.
