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reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 03:39 AM by Jomina
reply to post by platipus



I think you misunderstand the meaning of what was going on.

There has been a ban in PLACE for 20 years, preventing anyone from foreign countries to enter the US, if they are HIV positive.

This would be a good change for a change


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 03:54 AM by halfoldman
reply to post by platipus



Deliberately giving someone HIV is covered in almost all penal codes as a serious crime.


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 05:29 AM by VitalOverdose
reply to post by Skittle



Not just based on that report alone. Theres a number of things pointing to the possibility of an impending WMD false flag op at the moment IMO. Think about it..let everyone in with lowered immune systems while they plan to target the country somehow. Would be an effective way to reduce numbers.

[edit on 31-10-2009 by VitalOverdose]



reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 12:24 PM by halfoldman
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Hear you with compassion. Life changes when you test HIV-positive, and so does your perspective. For me, and many others IT IS BREAKING NEWS. Recently South Africa had a performer from a dance troupe sent home because he was HIV-positive. He didn't know it was illegal either. For people from sub-saharan Africa it is huge news, because this law was really dated. Today, with so much awareness and treatment, that law was also illogical. Maybe now we can have the next HIV/Aids conference in the US, instead of Canada. The image of the US has just regained some of the old global nobility - well done!
And by the way, HIV-positive people were still travelling to the US, they just had to put ARVs in other pill-holders and stay low-key. Now it can at least be controlled and traced. At least the US is now removed from the Saudi/Red China bigot list.




reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 01:51 PM by ButterCookie
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Unless its rape, how can you 'delibertly ' give someone AIDS?

A person that consents to having sex has the responsiblity of wearing (or making their partner ) wear protection.


reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 02:38 PM by halfoldman
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Depending on the awareness of a society and their state of denial: it is very possible to mislead someone into "consenting" risky sex.
A very crucial point. HIV-poz partners in discordant situations often find that the other partner is insistent on breaking the safe-sex rules. In the UK, for example I remember a case of a Zimbabwean in the UK who knew his status and infected 5 women. There are sick people out there.
Interestingly, in many countries, if the woman/victim insists that her rapist wears a condom it is no longer considered "rape" (just sexual assault).
Alledgedly, the colonial British penal code only considered it "rape" if one interfered with the reproductive system of a woman. the law was not there so much to protect women, but rather that the husband would not end up raising bastards!


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 09:17 AM by ButterCookie
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simple:

You should not be having unprotected sex in the FIRST place.

Having unprotected sex with someone means yuo allow whatever comes with it; HIV, syphliss, herpes, pregnancy, etc.

People don't want to be responisble for their actions.

You should not wait to see if someone is going to disclose their HIV status before having unprotected sex with them....What if they are HIV positive and ae just not aware that they are? It's called UNIVERSAL PRECAUTION...

Just like when you go to tthe hospital or dentist or even a paramedic giving assistance; they use protective gloves anyway.


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 03:22 PM by lifecitizen
Originally posted by ButterCookie
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simple:

You should not be having unprotected sex in the FIRST place.

Having unprotected sex with someone means yuo allow whatever comes with it; HIV, syphliss, herpes, pregnancy, etc.

People don't want to be responisble for their actions.

You should not wait to see if someone is going to disclose their HIV status before having unprotected sex with them....What if they are HIV positive and ae just not aware that they are? It's called UNIVERSAL PRECAUTION...

Just like when you go to tthe hospital or dentist or even a paramedic giving assistance; they use protective gloves anyway.



I realise people should use protection ButterCookie -in a perfect world everyone would but there are any number of reasons why people don't, ranging from religious beliefs to accidents happening-

So one person could quite easily give another person HIV deliberately and it wouldn't have to be a case of rape- as was your original question.
Unless its rape, how can you 'delibertly ' give someone AIDS?


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 07:38 PM by ButterCookie
reply to post by lifecitizen



Exactly......people don't always use protection....so that's why they should't be too upset if they wake up with an STD....

there has got to be some repsonsiblity somewhere....

and just because a person is HIV positive does not mean they have to disclose their HIV status to everyone they meet or sleep with....

Sound harsh?

It shouldn't...that HIV positive may chose to use protection or not...just because they decide to have sex with someone does not mean they want to spend the rest of their life ith that person..in that case, why disclose?

The other party can't rely on everyone disclosing their HIV status
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