posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 08:08 PM
1. God made satan,Satan made have had his own free will, so for the time being will say God turned off his all knowing powers and didnt know
satan/lucifer would turn own him
God isn't just gonna make people or angels who will be like robots. This is what happens with free will. In all the angels, all of them have to have
a choice. God isn't gonna make the angels he created be forced to love and acknowlege God.
and btw, isn't that statement kind of irrelevant? Considering Satan only destroys himself, he can't harm any man or persuade them into doing
anything without mans consent.
2.Once satan turned owned him,instead of casting straight to hell, he cast him to earth, to manipulate his loved ones.To create thousands of
religions/denominations.So you are playing the religious [powerball] 1 out of thousands if not millions will make it to heaven , you better pick the
right one or to HELL you go.(This is like if your dog turns on you locking him up in the room with your kids,by the way you go to prison for that
No. like I keep saying in other threads. We don't know if people in other faiths convert mentally before their death to Christ. God allowed Satan to
tempt mandkind in the garden to prove their obedience, they failed, yet, man created other religions not Satan.
Satan can only plant a seed, he cannot make people who have known the truth create something they don't want to in the first place.
Take me for instance. listen closely OP. real close.
I grew up ruthless. Non religious. I am 28. I ddn't know who Christ was literally until I was 20.
So if he can do that to me, why not everybody esle? Do you not think that a true sincere soul he will not lead to himself? do we know what's in man
heart or does God?
he is the most just judge ever since he put that justice in us. So if you a little human trey85 have that justice, how much more God who put it in
God knows what he's doing so trust in him.
And I used to beleieve I was a fricken vampire at one time before I knew Christ. i literally had an idol mind, pagan mind.
so if he can do it to a scumbag like me, why not other good people?
3. All snakes loose there legs (if they ever had them becuase satan posseses one snake and tells eve to eat the forbidden fruit) (poor snakes)
what? this makes no sense. Snakes were created that way. if not than you get that from evolution which means it's completely irrelevant to
4. All mankind is punished for Eve/Adams mistake (so the whole human population should be punished for every murder, we should all be on death row. )
No. But it's not a condemnation like murder. It's completely different. people on death row are guilty of murder and if we were punished like the we
would be in jail, were as the human race because of the first parents sin lost the grace which is a (gift) not a right, and so the only way we get it
back is through Christ. We are not in jail like punishment we just lost the gift of grace.
God cast them out of paradise which was on earth because of those two. And paradise became heaven, whereas earth became the hell we now know.
5.What happened to the the people before christ,were they cursed staright to hell.
No they went to limbo, sort of like a place where they waited which isn't heaven until Christ died on the cross.
Only real evil people went to hell. Graceless souls.
6. If someone is born in Iraq and all they ever know is (ALLAH)/(ISLAM) AND DO EVERYTHING they know to be right should they go to ETERNALL HELL.
read my response to number 2. Again if he can do it to me, he can do it to everybody. Once you're in a religion you are not locked. if the soul is
forced I believe Christ knows it's not their fault, and many christians have fallen away from their faith.
being born into something doesn't mean they can't search... again the understanding is very little..
7.And hell itself Internal torment and being set on fire for ever and ever does not equal LOVE
That's because you don't know the evil of peoples souls. Have you ever met someone SOOO evil that you wanted them locked away or seen justice done
to them as much as they poured out on earth?
well hell is not literally a fire we know on earth. It's an inwardly fire of evil and lack of grace. it's pure hatred.
Real love seperates evil from good. You want God to allow evil people in heaven to distrupt society? no. God is not uncle Tom. it's just like an
eternal jail cell.
for evil people.
The saints said that the souls in hell have chosen it, this is something God will show you after death, why each soul is in hell, and that the
rebellion is eternal, they have no love.
their state of souls so evil, fit their punishment. It's an unquenchable fire inside of them of hatred.
Some evil souls on earth, s*** look at the news everyday, go walk down a dark alley in the inner city, some soul on earth already reached a point of
such evil, there is no going back.
it's when a soul reaches the point where they just give up and say, I'm evil....I don't want love anymore.
8.I could be wrong but love is what it is, no matter what anyone does,Punishment,especially eternal fire will never promote love.Torture promotes hate
.Love does not punish(My own opinion anyway)
No love does punish. the torture is the choice of the individual. Some people on earth tortures themselves with addiction and violence, so some want
God has to punish wickedness. and that love you have op God put it in you/ If you have it yet God doesn't than that means God makes humans better
than him which is impossible..
Love sometimes requires justice.
the last part of the Op is awesome!
we love you too!