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Topic started on 29-9-2009 @ 02:31 AM by Skyfloating
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Disclaimer: This is no criticism of liberalism as such but of its darker side
How the left-wing are treating the Polanski-case is a good example of the dark-side of liberalism, a good example of what happens when a soft heart
becomes a soft brain.
The guy is a child-rapist who fled the country in order not to get arrested. Now that he did get arrested, several "liberal" activists such as
Harrison Ford, Monica Belluci, Harvey Weinstein, various left-wing-organizations, are calling to "Free Polanski".
And British novelist Robert Harris described the arrest as "disgusting treatment".
The Swiss Directors Association also criticised the arrest, describing it as "not only a grotesque farce of justice, but also an immense cultural
scandal".
BBC Report
As is quite typical for left-wing-extremists, right/wrong are relativised and even reversed, so that not child-rape is disgusting and a scandal but
arresting the rapist is "disgusting" and "an immense cultural scandal".
Im interested in hearing the viewpoints of both political sides on this...
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 02:56 AM by Orion65
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I don't understand it either, I guess it's all about who you are and who you know. An "average citizen" would be getting public outrage, most
likely even from the extreme left.
I'm more of a moderate/liberal but come on, don't throw all the left-wingers in the pot with the people behind the "Free Polanski" movement. Some
of us have a brain.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:01 AM by kosmicjack
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It's totally sick.
But rather than view it as a liberal issue, I tend to view it as an elitist issue - particularly Hollywood elite.
From R. Kelly to Charlie Sheen, they seem to have their proclivities and, because they are isolated in their own little community, they entertain us
and they consider themselves special, they want us to look the other way.
The deeper issue to me is the culture of abuse, ritual or otherwise. It seems pervasive in that lifestyle. McKenzie Phillips comes to mind. There are
others.
The occult overtones are off the chart as well. He was married to Sharon Tate the most famous victim of the Manson murders and he directed the uber
freaky Rosemary's Baby.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:16 AM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by Orion65
don't throw all the left-wingers in the pot with the people behind the "Free Polanski" movement. Some of us have a brain.
alright, alright...just checking to make sure....
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:16 AM by Exuberant1
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Originally posted by kosmicjack
From R. Kelly to Charlie Sheen, they seem to have their proclivities and, because they are isolated in their own little community, they entertain us
and they consider themselves special, they want us to look the other way.
It wasn't R Kelly in the tape and that was Rob Lowe not Charlie Sheen who was with the underage prostitute.
*I sometimes remember things, weird pointless things but then forget the perfectly good stuff. strange.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:18 AM by Orion65
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I agree, it's not a right or left wing issue as much as people in power with powerful friends to support them.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:19 AM by kosmicjack
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Wow.
Well if you don't think R Kelly and Charlie Sheen have issues, Scroogle it.
Fine. Add Rob Lowe to the list of Hollywood Pervs, if you like.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:19 AM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by kosmicjack
But rather than view it as a liberal issue, I tend to view it as an elitist issue - particularly Hollywood elite.
But its also a liberal issue as "free sexuality" is a core liberal issue. There is a bright side to "free sexuality" but it becomes dark when
taken to extremes.
I agree that maybe the whole occult-ritual-thing Polanski was obsessed with is connected to his preferences, if not in actuality then at least in
emotionality...
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:20 AM by spellbound
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It is all about Hollywood defending its own dark portals.
It seems to be the modern-day Sodom and or Gomorragh.
They seem to think they are above and beyond what rules ordinary mortals.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:21 AM by Zosynspiracy
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This Polanski thing is NUTS! I mean people are actually supporting this sicko? A 44 year old having sex with a 13 year old?????????????? I mean I
knew Hollywood was a sick and twisted place. This whole Momma and Poppas singer who slept with her dad for 13 years. My god what's wrong with
people nowadays? I'm sure there is a ton of that crap that goes on in Hollywood.
However, what is the point of prosecuting someone if the ADULT VICTIM doesn't even see anything wrong with what he did? I mean this lady is a loony
as well! And she has kids herself. I guess money means more to her than justice as Polanski paid her off years ago. But seriously, if the damn
victim doesn't see anything wrong with what he did why the hell is the LA DA wasting precious time and money on this stupid case. This whole thing
seems silly.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:24 AM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by Orion65
I agree, it's not a right or left wing issue
Incorrect. Actors such as Harrison Ford are well-known liberal activists. Even Polanski was a left-wing activist.
So it IS about left-wing-ideology...gone mad.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:25 AM by Orion65
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by Orion65
don't throw all the left-wingers in the pot with the people behind the "Free Polanski" movement. Some of us have a brain.
alright, alright...just checking to make sure....
Any excuse to crack this new whip I just got - Indiana Jones gave it to me right before he went over to the dark side.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:28 AM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by Orion65
Any excuse to crack this new whip I just got - Indiana Jones gave it to me right before he went over to the dark side.
Over on the dark side the whip is no longer used to get villains but for pleasure
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:28 AM by Exuberant1
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Originally posted by kosmicjack
Well if you don't think R Kelly and Charlie Sheen have issues, Scroogle it.
They did not victimize any children. No evidence of that has arisen.
Unlike with Roman Polanksi
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:31 AM by kosmicjack
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Come on Sky. Liberals are just more open about it. People are people and people of all ideologies have issues:
Mark Foley. Larry Craig. Ted Haggard. Jimmy Swaggert. Mark Sanford. John Ensign. And countless
others. Let's add
this as well.
Gross generalizations are not your style.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:32 AM by verylowfrequency
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I think the fact that it's more than 30 years old has allot to do with it.
He's clearly not a threat to anyone at this point in his life.
Though the state did not get it's form of punishment, at this point I think most agree he put himself through worse punishment by having the weight
of this possibility with him the past 30 years. Plus he could not practice his craft in Hollywood.
Even the victim herself thinks he's been punished enough.
So, what's the point?
It's all about publicity for the LA DA's office at this point and of course the message to any future lawbreakers that they will hunt you down until
you die blah blah blah.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:35 AM by Exuberant1
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It's all about publicity for the LA DA's office at this point and of course the message to any future lawbreakers that they will hunt you down until
you die blah blah blah.
Hunting pedophiles down until they die or are brought to justice.... Sounds good
Or should we cease pursuit if they can avoid getting arrested for a few years?
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:36 AM by JPhish
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Sorry, but don't care how long ago it was; this guy deserves a lot of pain and torment for what he did to that little girl . . .
Can't believe a monster like that could "get away" with it and yet, still have people supporting him.
Makes me sick.
The victim doesn't care you say? She's content with the payoff money?
proof that he created a monster out of that little girl.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:45 AM by Orion65
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by Orion65
I agree, it's not a right or left wing issue
Incorrect. Actors such as Harrison Ford are well-known liberal activists. Even Polanski was a left-wing activist.
So it IS about left-wing-ideology...gone mad.
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I disagree, being an "activist" doesn't mean you're a child abuser. You can't compare "free sexuality" gone wrong with being a pedophile.
THAT happens on both sides of the political and/or elite fence, as sick and unfortunate as it is. "Free sexuality" is more along the lines
of.......everyone in Hollywood and politics?
As far as my new whip, I'm not on the dark side so I'll keep it for now - if for no other reason than to keep you in line.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:51 AM by verylowfrequency
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Or should we cease pursuit if they can avoid getting arrested for a few years?
Of course not - up to a point. I think there comes a time that we use our resources for more relevant IE recent crimes, and actually protecting the
people with those resources rather than a publicity stunt as this case is. Another words they should of spent the time & money to hunt him down & take
him into custody at the time it was more relevant. Now they are just wasting taxpayer money to elevate themselves while the relevance of the case is
long lost.
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